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I just received the module. First thing I notice is that there is no thing to attach the ground/netraul to. No hooklike metal thing. So I'm gonna have to figure out how to connect that up to something on the metal chassis of the car.

I also received the fuse tap, so I'll be hooking it up today and/or tomorrow!

Edit: and I cant even get the yellow clip removed from the steering wheel. Anymore force and I'm really gonna break it I think.

Edit 2: was using suboptimal tools. A screwdriver is not the correct tool for helping to unplugging a connector. I was using it to push in the restraint of the yellow clip that prevents it from being taken out, but it proved to be too pointy. My PC building experience is working against me here, those usually come off by force. General tip; use something square to push in the restraint.

Edit 3: I got sent the wrong fuse tap, I ordered a micro II and they sent a mini low. Contacted the seller and I'll get a replacement. But that means no mando for this weekend. Major bummer.
 
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Slablaadje said:
I just received the module. First thing I notice is that there is no thing to attach the ground/netraul to. No hooklike metal thing. So I'm gonna have to figure out how to connect that up to something on the metal chassis of the car.

I also received the fuse tap, so I'll be hooking it up today and/or tomorrow!

Edit: and I cant even get the yellow clip removed from the steering wheel. Anymore force and I'm really gonna break it I think.

Edit 2: was using suboptimal tools. A screwdriver is not the correct tool for helping to unplugging a connector. I was using it to push in the restraint of the yellow clip that prevents it from being taken out, but it proved to be too pointy. My PC building experience is working against me here, those usually come off by force. General tip; use something square to push in the restraint.

Edit 3: I got sent the wrong fuse tap, I ordered a micro II and they sent a mini low. Contacted the seller and I'll get a replacement. But that means no mando for this weekend. Major bummer.
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Ground at the bottom of your footrest, very close to the handle to open the bonnet. There is a ground wire there, loosen the nut and put the hook behind the nut. :)

Mine came with the hook installed on the module ground wire.
 
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Slablaadje said:
I just received the module. First thing I notice is that there is no thing to attach the ground/netraul to. No hooklike metal thing. So I'm gonna have to figure out how to connect that up to something on the metal chassis of the car.

I also received the fuse tap, so I'll be hooking it up today and/or tomorrow!

Edit: and I cant even get the yellow clip removed from the steering wheel. Anymore force and I'm really gonna break it I think.

Edit 2: was using suboptimal tools. A screwdriver is not the correct tool for helping to unplugging a connector. I was using it to push in the restraint of the yellow clip that prevents it from being taken out, but it proved to be too pointy. My PC building experience is working against me here, those usually come off by force. General tip; use something square to push in the restraint.

Edit 3: I got sent the wrong fuse tap, I ordered a micro II and they sent a mini low. Contacted the seller and I'll get a replacement. But that means no mando for this weekend. Major bummer.
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Go local for the tap, an auto parts store will have them.
 
It works! It was firmware 2.0, even though the box has a sticker on the side which says "Veloster N".

As for the installation:
I taped the ground/neutral to a metal bar near the fuse box. I actually found a spare fuse that does have power, so I filed the plastic off of the top of the fuse and have a friend of mine solder wire onto it. I think this is perfectly safe as the Mando unit actually has a fuse itself, located in the black part (on the red wire).

As for the driving:
Went for a testdrive, and tried both extremes of the damping setting (0% and 100%). 0% is more comfortable than regular comfort and 100% is more sporty (or should I say bouncy, damn) than N mode, so that's nice. I like the customizability, pretty good geeky stuff. My primary reason to buy this has not been solved however. I felt the car handle inconsistently at various speeds, which is still the case.

Here in the Netherlands there's quite bad speed bumps in residential areas. In these areas the speed limit is 30, so I'll probably create a custom profile which has 0% damping at up to 40, and then goes up to like 50% at 50kmh and then raise it gradually from then on. I'll also have to test how exactly ride and handling interact.
 
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I’m interesting in Mando ECS10. The “i30 N How to & Guides Section” should have an installation guide. Any owner can tell me if It’s difficult to install? It‘s useful? Do you feel diferences in the different modes?
 
let me summarize what I told @Dzhedaj about the module, maybe it helps the others as well:

Regarding the app control, you don't have to use the app after the initial setup. The box will automatically start up when you start your car.

As long as the box is connected and in idle mode (meaning you did not select any mode on the app) the Mando-Improved driving modes can be used using your steering wheel. This means you can continue to use your car like you did before, only the modes will all feel slightly different.
E.g. you can go to N mode using your steering wheel buttons and the suspension will also go to the Mando-defined N mode. You can then go back to normal mode using your steering wheel and the suspension will go to the Mando-defined Comfort Mode.

When you now leave idle mode by selecting one of the 6 modes from the Mando-App, these ones then will be applied all the time and will override any command given through the steering wheel.
E.g. you select Comfort Mode on the app and afterwards switch to N mode using your steering wheel, the suspension will still be in comfort mode.
The same behavior applies when you use one of the three custom modes in the Mando-App.

To go back to idle mode, just disconnect and reconnect the Mando module to the car using the App's settings.

Hope this clears it up a bit. Kinda complicated, but easy to use once you got it ;)

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Regarding installation:
The unit needs power as well as a signal.
Regarding power, it is advised to hardwire it, e.g. using a piggy-pack. If you know how to hardwire a dashcam, this one should be a breeze.
Regarding signal, it takes the signal from the steering wheel buttons. So you'd need to remove the lower steering wheel column cover and tap into the signal. Then just put it back on.

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Hope this helps clear things up a bit. Imo a dedicated thread in the how-to segment would be a bit overkill, since the installation is so simple.

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Regarding the difference in ride quality, check out the post in my thread, don't wanna double post:
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FeGoPi said:
I’m interesting in Mando ECS10. The “i30 N How to & Guides Section” should have an installation guide. Any owner can tell me if It’s difficult to install? It‘s useful? Do you feel diferences in the different modes?
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My misses said it was a night and day difference when I load my custom map (softest setting possible for our dampeners)

So yes, I think it is worth it. :p
 
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I am thinking of buying the module. but I see different opinions. Some of you comment that with the ecs on if you don't have any mode selected when you change with the steering wheel, take the car's configuration but with maps customized by the module itself. However, another comment that if you change the modes with the steering wheel, the Oem configuration remains. It is depends on the firmware or really how it works. Can someone upload the manufacturer's manual in PDF.
 
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I am thinking of buying the module. but I see different opinions. Some of you comment that with the ecs on if you don't have any mode selected when you change with the steering wheel, take the car's configuration but with maps customized by the module itself. However, another comment that if you change the modes with the steering wheel, the Oem configuration remains. It is depends on the firmware or really how it works. Can someone upload the manufacturer's manual in PDF.
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Unfortunately their is no manual included with the module. You have to figure it out yourself.

If you do not connect to the module, OEM configuration remains. Once you connect, the Mando modes take over. :)
 
So if only the modes are modified from the application. 1ue application is in Korean and to have it in English I have to change my mobile. Then I'm not interested. I understood to the colleague that once you put the remote control if you do not select anything in the apk the steering wheel modes are no longer like the oem ones if not that the ecs modifies them more smoothly.
 
Pumuky said:
I am thinking of buying the module. but I see different opinions. Some of you comment that with the ecs on if you don't have any mode selected when you change with the steering wheel, take the car's configuration but with maps customized by the module itself. However, another comment that if you change the modes with the steering wheel, the Oem configuration remains. It is depends on the firmware or really how it works. Can someone upload the manufacturer's manual in PDF.
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The OEM configuration does not remain. The ECS overwrites each suspension setting (normal, sport and sport+). The selection itself can be done through the steering wheel. If you choose to use a custom mode you cannot change the suspension settings through the steering wheel anymore. Everything I wrote in the post above applies to firmware v2. But I am not aware of any differences to the v1 firmware. And since v1 did not work with my car, I would recommend you get a v2 either way.
 
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So if only the modes are modified from the application. 1ue application is in Korean and to have it in English I have to change my mobile. Then I'm not interested. I understood to the colleague that once you put the remote control if you do not select anything in the apk the steering wheel modes are no longer like the oem ones if not that the ecs modifies them more smoothly.
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The language depends if you have an ios or android device. Right now there is only a language button on the ios app and not on Android. If you are using an android device where the system language is not English, the app will default back to Korean.
 
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I say this because people comment that if there is no mode selected in the apk, the steering wheel controls are totally oem. The most logical thing is that when mounting the module the normal, Sport and N modes are modified from the module but continue to change from the steering wheel. I don't like the idea that in order to use the module I can only do it from the apk exclusively, in my case I have to change the mobile to English, open the application and change the mode. To my liking, too many steps for one thing that is honestly so expensive, another thing is that neither a user manual nor an assembly manual comes, any item on AliExpress for € 5 already has a guide ...
 
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Where do people say this?
My box works exactly the way I described above, meaning full control over the 3 Mando base modes via the steering wheel.
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In stinger forums and in this same post they comment on it tb, it is more you just edited this last publication and eliminated the control from the steering wheel hehe (sorry but I had time to read it hahaha). I think I will wait before buying a product that I see that still needs things to improve ...
 
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