The gear engages about half way. So when you then release the clutch you can really really hear the grinding, obviously. So I am not entirely sure. I'll just give the dealer a try, it's my first visit so I am not sure how good they really are...
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Issues with 5th/6th gear (and 1st/2nd)
- Thread starter David Barrett
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Ahh I've never lifted the clutch when the gear hasn't fully engaged. But the way a synchro operates I'd expect to hear a noise of some sort when moving the gear lever even with the clutch depressed. If in doubt take it to the dealer, the warranty is there to be used.
I took my car to Hyundai for a service and told them my 6th gear sticks they reported back nothing wrong with 6th gear then out driving and guess what 6th gear sticks all the bloody time. Hyundai stance on this matter as far as I am concerned is I am imagining 6th gear is sticking when it bloody well is sticking to high heaven going to take it back and demand they look at it.
Show them this topic, there's no reason for them not to do the repairs. I even pushed it that far that they printed out my maintenance history to give me some sort of paperwork to keep. You never know if the first N becomes as legendary as a first generation Golf and buyers in 15 years want to know what has been changed on the car ;-).
Yeah 5th feels sooo much smoother. 6th doesn't feel any different besides it's not getting stuck anymore.
God that would be something if this car becomes legendary. I would love that, as this car deserves that sort of high status.
Hi everyone, glad I found this thread and forum from a Google search! 
I have a Jan 2019 i30-N Fastback that has this issue. All gears are fine apart from 6th.
Same problem as described time and time again in this thread, clutch fully depressed, changing from 5th to 6th and it just won't go at all, I've tried applying a fair but of force but no dice.
What I do is change back to 5th and then to 6th, or into neutral, let the clutch out, put the clutch back in, and then change to 6th.
Some days it doesn't happen at all, other days it might be once, other days it can happen several times.
I bought the car ex-demo with 1500 miles on it so I'm a bit narked to see this appears to be a well known fault! (I've put over 2000 miles on it since then and the problem doesn't seem to be getting any better or worse.)
It's at the point now where I feel a bit nervous about my first change into 6th each day, as that's when it's most likely to happen. (When driving the car a bit harder and/or when it's been driven a few miles, it doesn't seem to happen as much.)
TBH it's not the best gearbox in the world as it is (feels a long way removed from the box in my FK2 Type-R, and even my Focus ST had a better box), so this really is the icing on the cake!
Back to the dealers I suppose.....
I have a Jan 2019 i30-N Fastback that has this issue. All gears are fine apart from 6th.
Same problem as described time and time again in this thread, clutch fully depressed, changing from 5th to 6th and it just won't go at all, I've tried applying a fair but of force but no dice.
What I do is change back to 5th and then to 6th, or into neutral, let the clutch out, put the clutch back in, and then change to 6th.
Some days it doesn't happen at all, other days it might be once, other days it can happen several times.
I bought the car ex-demo with 1500 miles on it so I'm a bit narked to see this appears to be a well known fault! (I've put over 2000 miles on it since then and the problem doesn't seem to be getting any better or worse.)
It's at the point now where I feel a bit nervous about my first change into 6th each day, as that's when it's most likely to happen. (When driving the car a bit harder and/or when it's been driven a few miles, it doesn't seem to happen as much.)
TBH it's not the best gearbox in the world as it is (feels a long way removed from the box in my FK2 Type-R, and even my Focus ST had a better box), so this really is the icing on the cake!
Back to the dealers I suppose.....
It does sound like you have a more serious issue. Mine was a bit stiff going into 6th until the car loosened up but the gear change has always been very crisp - the car is renowned for having a great gear change (latest Type R is better though I've read). My gearbox is a joy to use especially when hammering through the gears on track so the fact yours is so notchy in 6th and doesn't feel that great suggests you have an issue.Hi everyone, glad I found this thread and forum from a Google search!
I have a Jan 2019 i30-N Fastback that has this issue. All gears are fine apart from 6th.
Same problem as described time and time again in this thread, clutch fully depressed, changing from 5th to 6th and it just won't go at all, I've tried applying a fair but of force but no dice.
What I do is change back to 5th and then to 6th, or into neutral, let the clutch out, put the clutch back in, and then change to 6th.
Some days it doesn't happen at all, other days it might be once, other days it can happen several times.
I bought the car ex-demo with 1500 miles on it so I'm a bit narked to see this appears to be a well known fault! (I've put over 2000 miles on it since then and the problem doesn't seem to be getting any better or worse.)
It's at the point now where I feel a bit nervous about my first change into 6th each day, as that's when it's most likely to happen. (When driving the car a bit harder and/or when it's been driven a few miles, it doesn't seem to happen as much.)
TBH it's not the best gearbox in the world as it is (feels a long way removed from the box in my FK2 Type-R, and even my Focus ST had a better box), so this really is the icing on the cake!
Back to the dealers I suppose.....
Hopefully they will replace under warranty.
Oh don't get me wrong it's not an awful gearbox, and I guess the issue with 6th is colouring my opinion towards it as a whole. I just found the ST had a bit of a smoother box overall and the FK2 Type-R had the best manual box I've ever used, but as a car wasn't a good daily driver.
I really like the i30N, and I love the Jekyll and Hyde it can do with N and N Custom for proper drives, and Normal for when pootling around.
For the record the only gear I have a genuine problem with is 6th, all the others are fine, but the box as a whole doesn't blow me away.
I really like the i30N, and I love the Jekyll and Hyde it can do with N and N Custom for proper drives, and Normal for when pootling around.
For the record the only gear I have a genuine problem with is 6th, all the others are fine, but the box as a whole doesn't blow me away.
It does seem strange that they haven't sorted the issue with 6th on new cars as it's been an issue on many cars over the last year and a half so there must be updated parts used to manufacture it by now.
My I30N (early 2018) is an absolute joy and the shift is nigh on perfect. Unfortunately, you could have 1500 miles of an ape shifting it harshly in that time, but you’ll never know.
In any case, being unable to select a gear is certainly not a ‘feature’ of any car I know - so get it booked in and let a mechanic look at it.
In any case, being unable to select a gear is certainly not a ‘feature’ of any car I know - so get it booked in and let a mechanic look at it.
Surprised they haven't fixed this issue for newer models...i have a 2018 February build which does this. Its getting fixed in 3 weeks time. Its actually the 2nd time going back to the dealer. They aknowledged the fault and after having it for 3 days only adjusted the gear cables...they completely ignored everything i told them about the problem and what was needed to fix it...i was pretty annoyed and the day i picked it up, i had trouble getting it into 6th again..So i sent a email to them and cc hyundai australia into it. With a copy of paperwork i found on here with effected vin range..i received a call the next day with hyundai approving the syncro replacementHi everyone, glad I found this thread and forum from a Google search!
I have a Jan 2019 i30-N Fastback that has this issue. All gears are fine apart from 6th.
Same problem as described time and time again in this thread, clutch fully depressed, changing from 5th to 6th and it just won't go at all, I've tried applying a fair but of force but no dice.
What I do is change back to 5th and then to 6th, or into neutral, let the clutch out, put the clutch back in, and then change to 6th.
Some days it doesn't happen at all, other days it might be once, other days it can happen several times.
I bought the car ex-demo with 1500 miles on it so I'm a bit narked to see this appears to be a well known fault! (I've put over 2000 miles on it since then and the problem doesn't seem to be getting any better or worse.)
It's at the point now where I feel a bit nervous about my first change into 6th each day, as that's when it's most likely to happen. (When driving the car a bit harder and/or when it's been driven a few miles, it doesn't seem to happen as much.)
TBH it's not the best gearbox in the world as it is (feels a long way removed from the box in my FK2 Type-R, and even my Focus ST had a better box), so this really is the icing on the cake!
Back to the dealers I suppose.....
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I believe that my car is outside of the VIN range of that TSB document, however I do get the occasional stiffness shifting from 5th to 6th and it doesn't quite engage 6th (just doesn't click into gear). I would need to return the shifter to a neutral position and try again, which usually then engages. I am booked in for my 20K service soon so I will just raise it then.
Funnily enough mine hasn't done it for about a week now, I've had a couple of 'tricky' shifts but it hasn't refused to go into sixth once. Maybe I'm just on a lucky run.....
Does anyone know what's different about the replacement parts, and what the fault actually is with the original parts?
Does anyone know what's different about the replacement parts, and what the fault actually is with the original parts?
My car is going in on Monday for the gearbox to be checked over. Have screenshot that above TSB to help on Monday morning when I drop it off... also have a meeting with the sales manager as well because this isn’t the only issue I have had...
I feel the same way. When engine and gearbox are cold basically every time I try 6th it get's stuck. The only thing that helps for me is not trying to press the shift knob to the right and down while going 5th to 6th but rather trying to pull it just straight down as you would from 3rd to 4th, like in a straight line. Might risk accidentally slipping into 4th tho.
Never had issues with 5th tho, only 6th.
Never had issues with 5th tho, only 6th.
I don’t understand - you shouldn’t be pushing to the right. Just move it straight down into 6th. Any force to the right is wrong: 6th isn’t to the right. It can’t go left and then down into 4th unless you guide it that way.
I learnt to drive on a “3 on the tree” shift. 2nd to 3rd involved the lever going up on a 45 angle towards you, then flat towards you, then up on another 45 angle towards you. If you physically tried to move it in that way it ground the gears. My old man taught me to stop forcing the leaver and to “encourage it in the general direction”. In fact one didn’t have to grab hold, just guide it with the palm of the hand. Changes were as smooth a silk. This wasn’t a design flaw, it was made to be used and not wrestled into place.
I’m not saying there isn’t an issue
but I am saying don’t force a gear lever
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You're wrong; the gearlever is sprung towards the centre, i.e. the 3-4 channel. Changing between gears 1 and 2 requires pressure to the left, and between 5 and 6 requires pressure to the right. I think that's what @Hoodoo_Op. is alluding to. Or maybe your gearbox is more buggered than everyone else's
You're wrong; the gearlever is sprung towards the centre, i.e. the 3-4 channel. Changing between gears 1 and 2 requires pressure to the left, and between 5 and 6 requires pressure to the right. I think that's what @Hoodoo_Op. is alluding to. Or maybe your gearbox is more buggered than everyone else's
Not wrong. They’re all sprung like that - you don’t need to push, just guide it, not shove it about lol ;-)