I mixed it up with C5 from the chart. EC5 is indeed different and seems to be at least SN Plus. Sorry my mistake.EC5 seems to be different on countries...
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Yes as long as it is 0w-20 oil it will be fine , just a different brand name and maybe that’s what Ford recommend .. think Hyundai recommend shell .
Yeah the recommended oil is 0W-20 but no way will I be running that in our climate, it will be 5W-30 for me.
0W-20 might be better for fuel economy but from what I can tell its not what's best for the engine if you never go below freezing and the temps go into the 30 Degrees plus.
I would suggest selecting an oil based on your location. Even a 5W-40 may be a better option.
0W-20 might be better for fuel economy but from what I can tell its not what's best for the engine if you never go below freezing and the temps go into the 30 Degrees plus.
I would suggest selecting an oil based on your location. Even a 5W-40 may be a better option.
Oh boy, yet another oil thread 
First question is why are you looking on your own to get oil ? Car is not under warranty anymore , don't trust the dealer and you will be doing your own maintenance (hence taking it out of warranty) ?
Now if you want to your own oil change, it's best to use the oil grade/s the manufacturer suggests but very important is to have the rest of specs correct. Validate that the ACEA classification is the correct one.
First question is why are you looking on your own to get oil ? Car is not under warranty anymore , don't trust the dealer and you will be doing your own maintenance (hence taking it out of warranty) ?
Now if you want to your own oil change, it's best to use the oil grade/s the manufacturer suggests but very important is to have the rest of specs correct. Validate that the ACEA classification is the correct one.
Well its quite an important topic. The dealer will not be replacing mine, warranty or no warranty I do all the work myself on cars, the last one never saw a "Workshop" in 23 years.
Pretty much full synthetic Castrol or Mobil oils for me, the engine outlasts the rest of the car.
Pretty much full synthetic Castrol or Mobil oils for me, the engine outlasts the rest of the car.
The brand itself is not hugely relevant, each person can choose their favourite but all know. brands have quality engine oils.
The important is the approved viscosities, since those are the ones the manufacturer tested the engine and the certificates as they are relevant to the type of engine and the auxiliary systems.
Obviously if you are planning to do heavy track and/or tune the car, remove GPF, cat etc, then it's a wide open subject.
The important is the approved viscosities, since those are the ones the manufacturer tested the engine and the certificates as they are relevant to the type of engine and the auxiliary systems.
Obviously if you are planning to do heavy track and/or tune the car, remove GPF, cat etc, then it's a wide open subject.
The viscosity you ACTUALLY need is based on driving conditions and the climate you have.
If you never go below 0 Deg C then there is no point going for a 0W oil. The turbo is very demanding on the oil, the old school full floating bearings in older cars even more so. The temperature the oil experiences in the turbine area, in particular the turbine oil seal is just crazy, if you want the oil not to coke up the oil seal then you run a better oil.
Really top quality 5W-30 oils are easier to find, its been the standard for BMW and Porsche and others for years. If its good enough to run in your Mercedes A45S then its good enough for your Hyundai.
If you never go below 0 Deg C then there is no point going for a 0W oil. The turbo is very demanding on the oil, the old school full floating bearings in older cars even more so. The temperature the oil experiences in the turbine area, in particular the turbine oil seal is just crazy, if you want the oil not to coke up the oil seal then you run a better oil.
Really top quality 5W-30 oils are easier to find, its been the standard for BMW and Porsche and others for years. If its good enough to run in your Mercedes A45S then its good enough for your Hyundai.
As mentioned in the first reply, there are numerous threads around oil and it's been a very controversial discussion for several decades.
The advice for people who looking to keep their warranty , run the car as intended and do the services at the dealer, is best to keep the manufacturer recommendations.
The advice for people who looking to keep their warranty , run the car as intended and do the services at the dealer, is best to keep the manufacturer recommendations.
Each to their own, what you do with your car is up to you, you can put olive oil in your car for all I care, but if you come here for oil advice, then here it is.
Personally with experience, I wouldn't trust your typical dealer to be able to refit the drain plug correctly.
If you change your own oil, you ACTUALLY know what oil is in it.
Nothing controversial at all these days, anyone who has done any racing and then stripped down an engine will recommend a full synthetic. The barrier is the car owner willing to pay what it costs for a top quality oil, top end stuff is now really expensive, even on special.
Personally with experience, I wouldn't trust your typical dealer to be able to refit the drain plug correctly.
If you change your own oil, you ACTUALLY know what oil is in it.
Nothing controversial at all these days, anyone who has done any racing and then stripped down an engine will recommend a full synthetic. The barrier is the car owner willing to pay what it costs for a top quality oil, top end stuff is now really expensive, even on special.
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Will be using 5W-30 in the i30N cos the 20 in 0-20 is for the i20N and the 0-30 is for the i30 bro.
But seriously I can go better spec than a Hyundai spec oil from both Castrol and Mobil over here because they make stuff that covers all the latest Euro standards for cars costing 10 times as much as your Hyundai.
But seriously I can go better spec than a Hyundai spec oil from both Castrol and Mobil over here because they make stuff that covers all the latest Euro standards for cars costing 10 times as much as your Hyundai.
In our country we have a saying that "Oils aint oils". it seems dealers here use 0W20 but ILSAC G-5 and not the ILSAC G-6, Hyundai wont tell me what difference it would make but to use what the manual recommends!
Depends on what's actually available in your country.
We are spoilt for choice over here, no idea why the isle for oil is as long as the isle for pop drink at the supermarket.
I wouldn't use 0W-20 even if Hyundai said you should, I ended up getting Mobil 1 0W-40.
Shell was on special here a while back, selling very cheap but I missed it. They must be developing something new because its non existent here at present.
Most people end up deciding what oil to use based on price, not what is actually the best oil to use.
We are spoilt for choice over here, no idea why the isle for oil is as long as the isle for pop drink at the supermarket.
I wouldn't use 0W-20 even if Hyundai said you should, I ended up getting Mobil 1 0W-40.
Shell was on special here a while back, selling very cheap but I missed it. They must be developing something new because its non existent here at present.
Most people end up deciding what oil to use based on price, not what is actually the best oil to use.
Lets be honest next to nobody keeps the same car for 20 years so most people don't care what oil goes in it because a stuffed engine will be the next owners problem. Quite looking forward to be able to look after the oil in a new car for a change because most of the damage in particular to the turbo happens before you even get the car.
Let's not go into running other viscosities (it's a separate topic) than the manufacturers specified: "SAE 0W20, API SN PLUS/SP or ILSAC GF-6. Requires <API SN PLUS (or Above) Full synthetic> grade engine oil."
These requirements cover quite many oils and I'd like to hear more details about differences between them. Especially the oils "manufacturers approved" specifications are confusing.
For example:
Quartz Ineo Xtra EC6 0W-20. Data sheet.
vs
Quartz Ineo Xtra Long Life 0W-20. Data sheet.
The international standards are identical but the latter has manufacturers approved standards only for VW 508.00/509.00, Porsche C20 and Ford WSS-M2C956-A1. I have seen a similar split with other oil manufacturers as well, what sets the VW 508.00/509.00 and Porsche C20 so much apart from others? Out of these two Quartz oils which one would you choose and why? I'm currently running EC6.
These requirements cover quite many oils and I'd like to hear more details about differences between them. Especially the oils "manufacturers approved" specifications are confusing.
For example:
Quartz Ineo Xtra EC6 0W-20. Data sheet.
vs
Quartz Ineo Xtra Long Life 0W-20. Data sheet.
The international standards are identical but the latter has manufacturers approved standards only for VW 508.00/509.00, Porsche C20 and Ford WSS-M2C956-A1. I have seen a similar split with other oil manufacturers as well, what sets the VW 508.00/509.00 and Porsche C20 so much apart from others? Out of these two Quartz oils which one would you choose and why? I'm currently running EC6.
Oils are a total nightmare and its almost pointless having a discussion on them.
People are more divided on them than American politics. Its really hard to get the right recommendations and some of the auto shops where you put in your vehicle type don't help either with incorrect advice.
Best to go directly to the oil suppliers website and put in your manufacturer like I did with Mobil.
www.mobil.com
Hyundai recommends Shell oils but they are not really "Mainstream" over here in terms of availability or else I would go down that route.
I also refuse to use a 0-20W oil in our climate and in a turbo vehicle but lets not talk about that.
People are more divided on them than American politics. Its really hard to get the right recommendations and some of the auto shops where you put in your vehicle type don't help either with incorrect advice.
Best to go directly to the oil suppliers website and put in your manufacturer like I did with Mobil.
Hyundai Engine Oil | Synthetic Engine Oil | Mobil in SAP
Explore the variety of Mobil™ engine oils suitable for Hyundai models such as the Hyundai i30 and Hyundai Tucson, including petrol and diesel engine oils.
www.mobil.com
Hyundai recommends Shell oils but they are not really "Mainstream" over here in terms of availability or else I would go down that route.
I also refuse to use a 0-20W oil in our climate and in a turbo vehicle but lets not talk about that.
Not going into your oil deeper I'd still like to ask how do you deal with regular maintenance as I'd imagine dealers would insist on putting some 0w-20 in the car?Oils are a total nightmare and its almost pointless having a discussion on them.
People are more divided on them than American politics. Its really hard to get the right recommendations and some of the auto shops where you put in your vehicle type don't help either with incorrect advice.
Best to go directly to the oil suppliers website and put in your manufacturer like I did with Mobil.
Hyundai Engine Oil | Synthetic Engine Oil | Mobil in SAP
Explore the variety of Mobil™ engine oils suitable for Hyundai models such as the Hyundai i30 and Hyundai Tucson, including petrol and diesel engine oils.
Hyundai recommends Shell oils but they are not really "Mainstream" over here in terms of availability or else I would go down that route.
I also refuse to use a 0-20W oil in our climate and in a turbo vehicle but lets not talk about that.