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The Brembo discs are fine and well coated. But the pads are only for road usage. They already get in trouble with "hard" raod use. Were totally blown in Hockenheim after 1,5 laps. Went straight 150m wider at the hairpin in 2nd lap. Changed them to Tarox Corsa which are R90 aprooved, too. I love these pads on the road, even in winter and also for light to middle track use. More bite as the OEMs (which were also really usable on track!) for half the price.
Of course at least additional cooling buffles are mandatory for track, no matter which pads.
 
Shadow-Flo said:
The Brembo discs are fine and well coated. But the pads are only for road usage. They already get in trouble with "hard" raod use. Were totally blown in Hockenheim after 1,5 laps. Went straight 150m wider at the hairpin in 2nd lap. Changed them to Tarox Corsa which are R90 aprooved, too. I love these pads on the road, even in winter and also for light to middle track use. More bite as the OEMs (which were also really usable on track!) for half the price.
Of course at least additional cooling buffles are mandatory for track, no matter which pads.
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Hockenheim is notorious for eating breaks for breakfast,I track mine at Nürburgring as its closer to me,I did planed on getting the big break kit from brembo but something in between happened and had to resort to such methods.
Discs are phenomenal,but I will admit the screeching Brembo pads are bit in the way,but cant complain for the price me and my cousin installed em.
 
jimakos92 said:
For the brake gurus here and the more experienced. Would DBA 4000 T3 with Pagid Street+ make sense? Soon I will need to change disks/pads and thinking of upgrading a bit. Cheeeers :)
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Makes perfect sense, I just had them installed last week. Still in the bedding process but so far so good.
 
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calinosu said:
those are 5000 not 4000...
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Sure - in a sense - they should be even better than the 4000 series. But as he explained, the braking surface material is completely the same - the only difference is that 4000 is one piece, and 5000 has an aluminium hub screwed to the "braking ring" to make it lighter overall. The 5000 are also not a "floating" setup, but hard screwed directly to the plate, with bolts - he demonstrated how they crackle and make noise once the materials start to expand differently (iron vs aluminium). That's a sign of really cheap engineering and execution. I don`t want to install either 4000 or 5000, seeing all this, so I need something better
 
Hi everyone, I’m bringing this post back to ask for some information.

I was interested in the EBC Apollo 4 kit (or EBC Big Brake Kit—call it what you like).

I tried using the printable template, but I didn’t really get it.

Does anyone know if it’s possible to use it on the stock 19-inch rotors without spacers? Because in the few posts I’ve read, there’s a lot of confusion.

Some say yes, some say no, some say with 5mm spacers, some with 20mm spacers... some have used them with different rims... let me know, thanks.
 
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Don't use your hand brake when it is rainy, they tend to stick together with the discs. Also if you're parking in a dry garage, with wet pads n discs.

Had this also on DS Performance pads in the past on an other car. On fronts never a problem.
 
Brakes stuck only two times in their short life (mounted in april 2024) - once after heavy rain and once after car wash.
Yes - I used hand brake in both situations and they were badly stuck.
 
p_b82 said:
I'd be inclined to raise this with Ferodo as that level of falling apart is def not what it should be; was it a particularly heavy track session or just "day to day" road use?
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Brakes had two years and only few thousand kilometers used on the road only. They were ok - breaking was really good (I like fast starts then slowing down). I went for Ferodo site and I think no chances for RMA/guaranty. To many dots * - about using. Too hard, too low, to heavy foot, on track, on road blah blah blah. You can read - owner fault in 99,9% like always.
Most funny and scary was that I found something was wrong with that rust on brake disc. I tested my brakes using paper test - if small paper sheet of paper can go between disc and pads.
 
Anyone tried these discs? They are carbon heavy, motorsports proven and supposedly perfect fit for Pagid RSL 2 pads.
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As of yesterday, my brake discs got to the end of their life after 37k km (1 year 9 months).

I changed the original pads 1 year ago at 5mm (worn those down in some TFs and 2 hours of Slovakia Ring track day). I installed the Hyundai rsl29. Since then in 3 full days (trainings) and a few TFs I did maybe a total of 50-55 laps on Nordschleife. Most of them not cooled down properly just roll out on Döttinger Höhe.

The pads are still not fully worn down but with how the discs look but now - sadly we have to part ways. I do get a lot of vibrations that I can't even clean with braking anymore, not that it matters with the disc condition.

I have a set of original discs I'm thinking to use - all in all they lasted decently considering I have no extra cooling and couldn't do very careful cooling after every use. Pads are a problem as always, I was happy with how the rsl29 did but I can't find them anymore so maybe the new so called Hyundai performance (nexd), maybe ds2500 (khm, at least they look metallic and not coloured so not obvious)... will have to decide quick as I have a scheduled TF weekend with friends in 2 weeks...
I considered a BBK that would do better with heat and maybe even have better pad availability, but man as a regular person it's painful to think of 5-6k cost.

How you guys doing with your brakes, you happy and what do you use now with what usage profile? if anyone feels to share.
 

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