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Latest news from EBC.uk is that Yellow Stuff pads for i20N will be available end of Q2 around June ...

Until then I have paced an order for the full DBA kit, T2 discs and OEM+ brake pads, plus Forge brake lines ...

I hope will be an upgrade vs OEM, since frankly speaking OEM brakes are not the best area for i20N
 
DBA full set part numbers are;

DBA2472S front / DBA3659S rear - Street Series - T2 brake discs
DB15156SS front / DB15157SS rear - Street Series - Brake Pads
 
SteveDek said:
Latest news from EBC.uk is that Yellow Stuff pads for i20N will be available end of Q2 around June ...

Until then I have paced an order for the full DBA kit, T2 discs and OEM+ brake pads, plus Forge brake lines ...

I hope will be an upgrade vs OEM, since frankly speaking OEM brakes are not the best area for i20N
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The DBA t2 discs aren't great. You'd be better off going with the OEM Disc and an upgraded pad like the Circo S88. You won't notice a difference with the brake lines either.
 
For me the problem is not dust, this is ok, the problem is that especially when cold and its cold here in Switzerland you have no brakes at all. You have to brake-test the car 2 or 3 times before they get any kind of temperature and get reasonable (not great!) braking
 
SteveDek said:
For me the problem is not dust, this is ok, the problem is that especially when cold and its cold here in Switzerland you have no brakes at all. You have to brake-test the car 2 or 3 times before they get any kind of temperature and get reasonable (not great!) braking
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The DBA rotors won't help with that. The OEM rotors are supplied by Brembo Going the factory pads will have the same braking performance. It's just the cold pad co-efficient.
 
SteveDek said:
For me the problem is not dust, this is ok, the problem is that especially when cold and its cold here in Switzerland you have no brakes at all. You have to brake-test the car 2 or 3 times before they get any kind of temperature and get reasonable (not great!) braking
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During colder and inclement weather, everyone needs to lightly brake check a few times on occasion, to keep the pads from hydroplaning and to increase friction and heat on the rotors.

Some manufacturers like Audi electronically pulse the brakes pads, which provides the same affect.👍🇺🇸
 
SteveDek said:
DBA full set part numbers are;

DBA2472S front / DBA3659S rear - Street Series - T2 brake discs
DB15156SS front / DB15157SS rear - Street Series - Brake Pads
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Today we've tried to install the following;

DBA2472S front / DBA3659S rear - Street Series - T2 brake discs (ok)
Forge Stainless steel brakes lines (ok)
DB15156SS front / DB15157SS rear - Street Series - Brake Pads (not ok - missing the pad wear indicator and also couldnt fit the OEM calipers although DBA Europe had these two part numbers declared for i20N 2021)
 
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On the last blast the brake starts to fade, don't really know if it was the brake fluid or the pads itself, maybe both. The blast was about 10 minutes only, discs changed from blue to black. But they're grey again. Castrol SRF Racing a try worth, if that doesn't work hopefully DS2500 are started to be made.
 
I would never buy EBC again, but a friend of mine rated the bluestuff NDX as okay.

Had experience with greenstuff and yellowstuff R. The green were one of the worst I've had, the yellow were better as oem pads and able to operate some higher temps but the behavior was extremely variable warm to hot and always very wooden pedal feel.
 
valenpa said:
Good morning,

as I reported in the My i20N presentation post https://n-cars.net/forums/threads/my-i20-n.7857/
I replaced the OEM brake pads with Carbotech XP8 Front Pad Set and Carbotech AX6 Rear Pad Set which guarantee excellent performance in all driving situations.
A warm greeting, ciao
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any anoying sounds of the aftermarket pads? do they warm fast specially the xp8 ( front ones)?
 
i_twenty_N said:
Maybe due ESP cause it regulates a lot on plus. I do also sometimes a downhill run with my Saxo 840kg 247mm F/R never got issues like you. Okay Tarox rotors & DS2500 pads on front, the 20N is of course a lot heavier plus that hefty wheel weights. But I hope not to modify the N in terms of calipers. One day for sure some serious pads and rotors if really necessary. Also depends how driveable the N will be on a 20-30minute blast. The Pirelli's will suffer first I think, on the Saxo are A052's mounted in 195/50R15 as a reference!
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253 mm on a Yaris TS for many years with DS2500. NEVER had a problem even after 20 kms downhill. I also agree that tyres will fail much earlier than brakes.
 
Hmm yeah now first time for the N in the Alps on a short holiday and brakes were the first member in the chain, that is weak. Had a serious understeer under load going full a serpentine uphill in 2. gear. How come with torsen LSD, through tires maybe a bit suspension. It understeers cause grip is to weak on both wheels, but it was very gentle and controllable.
 
to make the torsen differential work, and avoid understeer, you have to apply the following technigue. Approach the turn, be conservative with the speed, choose the "right line" and when you are to the apex of the turn, press the acceleration pedal hard, so as to make the differential "distribute" the torgue right between left and right axle, and avoid understeer. If you have excessive speed before the apex, dont have the right line, hesitate with the acceleration pedal, or be forced to push the brake pedal because of excessive speed, the be prepared to experience understeer or oversteer if you press the brake pedal.
If the road is dusty or just starts to rain , then all cars will face "abnormal behaviour.
 
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That's correct, but the behavior on the Saxo is significant different. You have to drive very hard to activate the LSD. In or after apex, grip alone on tires is so superb that the Quaife won't work. When she works up to extreme you really have to open the steering or let the throttle off, otherwise you end up in a turn-in to make a uturn you won't like to have.

So situation was no dust, grippy road the understeer came after apex. I guess tires couldn't handle more. At all if you know it absolute predictable, with semis this would be done, if they'll be warm.

Yesterday on Stelvio Pass, had the knowledge that the N is to big and the steering radius too, to blast there heavily. First time there, at all nice. But really to narrow on the serpentines, to take them with flow on 2. gear.
 
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