NO, but as I have seen from Facebook, Airtec has also now something for our cars:
You can write to Airtec Motorsport Poland or buy if from Hudsonautomotive
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Air Filter & Intake Discussion
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You can write to Airtec Motorsport Poland or buy if from Hudsonautomotive
Still opting for using the stock airbox.
Just installing the snorkel and possibly upgrading the intake from stock airbox to turbo inlet.
I think TurboZentrum will release their silicone intake by February.
No idea how both of them will impact performance of the car if any tbh.
Just installing the snorkel and possibly upgrading the intake from stock airbox to turbo inlet.
I think TurboZentrum will release their silicone intake by February.
No idea how both of them will impact performance of the car if any tbh.
As TarmoT mentioned, they do not have a complete intake.
But that's the point, Turbozentrum says they have a solution for better air intake which increase power a lot. (but don't show that solution and no shipping, just buy and install at their place)
But most likely it is just the intake snorkel (like Velossa Tech offers) and then it is absolutely impossible it will gain 50nm more without doing changes to the ECU.
I'm all in favour of function over form, but let's hope it performs better than it looks. She ain't pretty.
Sorry guys - I messed up with Turbozentrum.
That word "Berlin" made me to mess all stuff.
I was thinking about Performance Center Berlin who confirms that with their "mysterious" (TOP SECRET) intake moddification, i30n will gain 18bhp and 60Nm. Their actual product is the same as Velossa Tech snorkel.
Regarding Turbozentrum intake - yes I know that they have air pipe from turbocharger to air box and it is made from silicone. I talked with guys couple of months ago and their product will be released next year in February. But.... it will be the most expensive intake pipe available on market
There is one alternative option on market but.... communication with Lars Venner from Gruppenzwang is like a nightmare.
Turbozentrum beta version (metal):
Gruppenzwang:
That word "Berlin" made me to mess all stuff.
I was thinking about Performance Center Berlin who confirms that with their "mysterious" (TOP SECRET) intake moddification, i30n will gain 18bhp and 60Nm. Their actual product is the same as Velossa Tech snorkel.
Regarding Turbozentrum intake - yes I know that they have air pipe from turbocharger to air box and it is made from silicone. I talked with guys couple of months ago and their product will be released next year in February. But.... it will be the most expensive intake pipe available on market
There is one alternative option on market but.... communication with Lars Venner from Gruppenzwang is like a nightmare.
Turbozentrum beta version (metal):
Gruppenzwang:
Ah sh*t. You're right TarmoT. I mixed up both as well.
I meant Performance Center Berlin, not Turbozentrum.
Thanks for clearing that up.
About Lars from Gruppenzwang. Yes. The communication is very bad. There are several posts in the German Facebook groups where the people are not very satisfied. Delivery for exhaust tips take about 3 months instead of that specified 30 days. Quality is very good but service is extremely bad.
I meant Performance Center Berlin, not Turbozentrum.
Thanks for clearing that up.
About Lars from Gruppenzwang. Yes. The communication is very bad. There are several posts in the German Facebook groups where the people are not very satisfied. Delivery for exhaust tips take about 3 months instead of that specified 30 days. Quality is very good but service is extremely bad.
If anyone is following JP performance on YouTube , he uploaded a video last week where he installed Piper cross filter ( gained like 5NM from 413 to 418) of torque and after installed GZ intake pipe and turbo inlet.
I don't speak German and Auto translate is a nightmare bit he compared previous set up and after on a Dyno and there was no difference if I understood correctly.
In addition his 100-200 times were pretty much the same.
Edit: Forgot to mention he is still with stock software.
I don't speak German and Auto translate is a nightmare bit he compared previous set up and after on a Dyno and there was no difference if I understood correctly.
In addition his 100-200 times were pretty much the same.
Edit: Forgot to mention he is still with stock software.
On the first run he gained a litte power, on the next he lost some. But thats not cause of the parts, it's cause of the IAT. It is just to hot when running a couple of runs directly one after another.
Also the parts won't get you any noticable power increasement if you don't remap the ECU.
Beside that, there is no need to change the parts if you don't look for optical change.
TarmoT is running 380bhp with stock intake. (just snorkel)
You got the point - most of gains JP Performance managed to get was not because of fancy aftermarket filters and pipes but just it was a different day on dyno (different ambient temp ect...).
I wrote to current topic more than 6-months ago that aftermarket intakes will not give addvertised performance gains because our cars just does not need more air and original air box + filter combo works perfect. Differences will start to appear after making more moddifications to your car like upgrade intercooler, upgrade dowpipe, upgrade turbocharger and remap.
On Dyno it makes sense. But even on the first run he didn't see any difference Vs stock.
On the road his 100-200 time had no difference when comparing stock airbox and intake Vs pipercorss filter and GZ intake and inlet.
And IAT should be fairly low this time of the year, especially in Germany.
I think I'm his next video he upgrades the intercooler with the one from Wagner.
Logically next step will be to map his ECU ( he already has a downpipe fitted).
The video with the wagner intercooler went online yesterday
I will add that JP Performance video also here:
Maybe some German guys can contact with JP guys and ask them to translate all their Hyundai videos to English? I think that it is the best prove for current and future N-car owners that Mr. Albert and Hyundai engineers wasn´t conservative when they developed exhaust and intake system for that engine. That videos will be good proof that all aftermarket cat-back or GPF back exhaust makers are not telling us truth about estimated performance gains regarding i30n (there are cars on market, where replacing factory exhaust will give lots of improvement).
Same thing goes also about all aftermarket intake system and performance air filter producers - there will be no addvertised power gains if your N-car has factory ECU software. I have experience that there will be no improvements even if you have stage1, stage2 or stage3 remap.
I remember that in topic about aftermarket intercoolers, I wrote that aftermarket IC is must be on N-cars but... it will not give you additional power - it just helps you to loose less power as IAT-s will start to rise.
Maybe some German guys can contact with JP guys and ask them to translate all their Hyundai videos to English? I think that it is the best prove for current and future N-car owners that Mr. Albert and Hyundai engineers wasn´t conservative when they developed exhaust and intake system for that engine. That videos will be good proof that all aftermarket cat-back or GPF back exhaust makers are not telling us truth about estimated performance gains regarding i30n (there are cars on market, where replacing factory exhaust will give lots of improvement).
Same thing goes also about all aftermarket intake system and performance air filter producers - there will be no addvertised power gains if your N-car has factory ECU software. I have experience that there will be no improvements even if you have stage1, stage2 or stage3 remap.
I remember that in topic about aftermarket intercoolers, I wrote that aftermarket IC is must be on N-cars but... it will not give you additional power - it just helps you to loose less power as IAT-s will start to rise.
This^ is correct. Intercooler keeps IAT's from the compressor in check prior to entering the combustion chamber. Cooler denser intake temps, aids in producing more power ie, tq and hp.
Keeping IAT's down as close to ambient temp is the goal. This is why during the fall and winter the engine will produce more power overall. When you adjust the VE, Fuel & Timing maps to take advantage of reduced temps, it will produce more tq and hp.
It's a combination off all three that makes the difference (Intake, Exhaust & Tuning). You're simply optimising/maximizing what's available. However, everything has it's part.
Dynamometer is a measuring tool and readings are relative to; ambient condition, altitude, type, calibrations, mechanical age, data acquisition, etc. It's not even a true demonstration, of how the engine will respond on the road. Keeping this in mind, it's easier to understand why, every dynamometer produces different results. How the engine responds on one will not be the same on another.
Keeping IAT's down as close to ambient temp is the goal. This is why during the fall and winter the engine will produce more power overall. When you adjust the VE, Fuel & Timing maps to take advantage of reduced temps, it will produce more tq and hp.
It's a combination off all three that makes the difference (Intake, Exhaust & Tuning). You're simply optimising/maximizing what's available. However, everything has it's part.
Dynamometer is a measuring tool and readings are relative to; ambient condition, altitude, type, calibrations, mechanical age, data acquisition, etc. It's not even a true demonstration, of how the engine will respond on the road. Keeping this in mind, it's easier to understand why, every dynamometer produces different results. How the engine responds on one will not be the same on another.
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@ TamoT You ought to like this one and fits the i30N also.
aFe Takeda finally got there Intake out on pre-order;
If you're wanting to keep an air box that connects to the original air inlet, this will work nicely.
2019-2020HyundaiVeloster NL4 2.0LGas
2019-2020Hyundaii30 N
Part Number: 56-70021R
https://afepower.com/afe-power-56-70021r-takeda-momentum-cold-air-intake-system-w-pro-5r-filter
aFe Takeda finally got there Intake out on pre-order;
If you're wanting to keep an air box that connects to the original air inlet, this will work nicely.
2019-2020HyundaiVeloster NL4 2.0LGas
2019-2020Hyundaii30 N
Part Number: 56-70021R
https://afepower.com/afe-power-56-70021r-takeda-momentum-cold-air-intake-system-w-pro-5r-filter
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@R Veloster N
That is WOW.... first proper Cold Air Intake system I have seen on market for our cars.
Probably there is a possibility to combine it later with Gruppenzwang or Foge
turbo inlet pipe too.
I think that now it is time to open my wallet
Thank you for nice hint
That is WOW.... first proper Cold Air Intake system I have seen on market for our cars.
Probably there is a possibility to combine it later with Gruppenzwang or Foge
turbo inlet pipe too.
I think that now it is time to open my wallet
Thank you for nice hint