A new twist - it turns out that the dealership have messed up the fitting of the fuel pump! When under load, usually around 4,000 RPM, the car will suddenly stutter/cut out. It will also randomly ’flat spot’. Both of these are typical symptoms of fuel starvation. Apparently, when changing the pump, there is an O-ring that easily falls out and this seems likely to have happened here. When this happens the pump works but the pressure is reduced. Anyway, it is back at the dealership right now and hopefully they will be able to sort it out!
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Update - all fixed now. Apparently the pump was fitted crooked so it just needed fitting properly and no new parts were needed. I’ve just taken the car for a thrash and all is good 
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IMO it would have been more of a twist if they'd installed it correctly
Hi all.
I have not been on here much recently but it is always great to see what YWNaN is up to!
I am still loving my bog-standard 24 plate red N and I am now approaching 6k miles with the P Zeroes almost illegal – never known tyres to wear so quickly.
Anyway I am always interested in the power to weight thing. Unfortunately the N is a little lower than my previous – a 65 reg Fiesta ST with the Mountune 215 BHP (and 236 lb/ft torque) upgrade.
Not sure if anyone else has mentioned this on the forum but I will bore you all (ha ha) with my knowledge of the i20N weight stats:
‘The Bible’ on this forum states: Weight: 1220 kg (full tank, 75 kg driver)
Magazines etc tend to state 1190kg as the standard weight.
Evo magazine weighed one around a year ago and it was 1238kg. Pretty sure this is without a driver so it is higher than one would expect.
For reference my ST is quoted as 1088kg which is very light by modern standards. However the same Evo article weighed the ST at 1193kg.
Hope you are still awake after that.
I have not been on here much recently but it is always great to see what YWNaN is up to!
I am still loving my bog-standard 24 plate red N and I am now approaching 6k miles with the P Zeroes almost illegal – never known tyres to wear so quickly.
Anyway I am always interested in the power to weight thing. Unfortunately the N is a little lower than my previous – a 65 reg Fiesta ST with the Mountune 215 BHP (and 236 lb/ft torque) upgrade.
Not sure if anyone else has mentioned this on the forum but I will bore you all (ha ha) with my knowledge of the i20N weight stats:
‘The Bible’ on this forum states: Weight: 1220 kg (full tank, 75 kg driver)
Magazines etc tend to state 1190kg as the standard weight.
Evo magazine weighed one around a year ago and it was 1238kg. Pretty sure this is without a driver so it is higher than one would expect.
For reference my ST is quoted as 1088kg which is very light by modern standards. However the same Evo article weighed the ST at 1193kg.
Hope you are still awake after that.
I believe Evo weigh to the German DIN standard which is all engine fluids and 90% full petrol tank. As you say, 75kg is suggested for the driver weight. Cars like the Honda Civic R and VW Golf R are more like 1,500 to 1,600kg - possibly slightly more.
So these are my thoughts on the Golf and the Renault. The big problem with the Golf was that the (very nice) salesman didn’t know how to take it out of automatic so it insisted on changing gear at 4,000 RPM. The second problem with the Golf was that it was just so polished! It changed gear so quickly and smoothly it may as well have been the Renault electric with its single gear - there was zero sense that it was changing gear. It was also very quiet and had zero steering feel. The steering was quite quick and accurate but there was no sense of the wheels loading up as the car cornered. The suspension was also very well sorted and rode the bumps superbly. Unfortunately, all this meant that there was very little sensation of driving a car! As with all VWs modern ’hot’ golfs there are numerous menu options to turn parts of it up or down in terms of performance. Often the engine and the gearbox have separate menu options and without both maxed out the whole experience is very ‘vanilla‘.
As for the Renault, well that has significantly more character than the Golf. This is only the second all electric car I have driven and it was far better than the first (some type of Hyundai people wagon). Steering has more feel than the Golf (pretty much anything has more feel than the Golf) and acceleration is brisk - but hardly mind blowing. Brakes and suspension were also surprising like the Golf. In fact, given that the Golf is ICE and the Renault is completely electric they were amazingly similar to drive - this is largely down to the very linear power delivery of the Golf and the smoothness of its DSG gear changes. In short, the Golf was so polished it was completely anodyne.
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The Renault 5:
As for the Renault, well that has significantly more character than the Golf. This is only the second all electric car I have driven and it was far better than the first (some type of Hyundai people wagon). Steering has more feel than the Golf (pretty much anything has more feel than the Golf) and acceleration is brisk - but hardly mind blowing. Brakes and suspension were also surprising like the Golf. In fact, given that the Golf is ICE and the Renault is completely electric they were amazingly similar to drive - this is largely down to the very linear power delivery of the Golf and the smoothness of its DSG gear changes. In short, the Golf was so polished it was completely anodyne.
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Given that my car will shortly be modified to 300+ BHP I think it may be wise to start carrying a fire extinguisher. There are a couple of options for mounting brackets and both place the extinguisher in the passenger footwell, close to the seat. One is from a British manufacturer and is intended for a 2Kg extinguisher. This is a good solution for hobby motorsport but will take up a lot of the footwell. The other option is from Flow Designs in Australia and is for a 1Kg extinguisher.
After much consideration I’ve chosen to go for the Flow Designs. In the end I ordered it directly from the Flow Designs website and international shipping was both reasonably priced and very quick! So quick that I haven’t yet received the extinguisher From the U.K. supplier! I’ve also ordered a quick release bracket but that’s coming from AliExpress so likely to take a couple of weeks.
I’ll update as the various bits arrive and are fitted. I did fit the Flow Designs bracket yesterday but that only took 5 minutes
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After much consideration I’ve chosen to go for the Flow Designs. In the end I ordered it directly from the Flow Designs website and international shipping was both reasonably priced and very quick! So quick that I haven’t yet received the extinguisher From the U.K. supplier! I’ve also ordered a quick release bracket but that’s coming from AliExpress so likely to take a couple of weeks.
I’ll update as the various bits arrive and are fitted. I did fit the Flow Designs bracket yesterday but that only took 5 minutes
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Thanks for the two reviews above.
Very enjoyable to read. Nice and brief too. You should work for a mag!
I understand the not-yet-released Golf GTI 50 (something like that) will be the last and potentially (hopefully) good to drive.
I was just at the Hyundai dealer getting some engine oil removed because it was over-filled at the first service.
Saw an Ionic 9 (I think) which is so huge it is like a cartoon/joke. Truly horrific and must weigh 3 tons at least.
Saw an Ionic 5 N again (last one was a year ago) and that looks huge but nice details inside and out. Although for £65k it really needs to look good!
Very enjoyable to read. Nice and brief too. You should work for a mag!
I understand the not-yet-released Golf GTI 50 (something like that) will be the last and potentially (hopefully) good to drive.
I was just at the Hyundai dealer getting some engine oil removed because it was over-filled at the first service.
Saw an Ionic 9 (I think) which is so huge it is like a cartoon/joke. Truly horrific and must weigh 3 tons at least.
Saw an Ionic 5 N again (last one was a year ago) and that looks huge but nice details inside and out. Although for £65k it really needs to look good!
Thanks for your comments, you would be surprised how much it encourages me
.I've sat in an Ionic 5N and it’s cool but surprisingly plasticky for such an expensive car. I’ve also seen an Ionic 9 which, as you say, is massive and very Mercedes like in its lines.
The Renault 5 is receiving rave reviews. I understand this as it’s got very cool styling, drives very well and is very good value for money compared to the competition - but then it isn’t really intended to be a ‘hot hatch’.
The Golf has also received very enthusiastic reviews as a ‘drivers’ car but I have to say I just don’t understand why. When racing, and your primary interest is fast gear changes with minimum rev loss, I can see how a DSG gearbox would be desirable - but in every other situation it’s just really boring! it does amazingly smooth gear changes but you may as well be driving an electric car! The Golf did have a nice interior but had very little, in terms of both features and build, over my i20N and some of the plastics still felt a bit cheap (new the Golf was £40,000+). The steering was astonishingly disconnected and really did feel like driving a budget sim. It wasn’t ridiculously light (I’ve driven high performance cars with this kind of steering) but it had absolutely no feel at all and the road felt exactly the same irrespective of the surface.
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An update in the fire extinguisher situation. I have finally received a working and pressurised fire extinguisher - for no good reason this took longer than getting the bracket from Australia and the additional quick release bracket from China.
Anyway, it is now fitted but I may rotate it the other way. My logic for fitting it like this was that the head of the extinguisher may be less likely to get in the way of passengers feet.
Anyway, it is now fitted but I may rotate it the other way. My logic for fitting it like this was that the head of the extinguisher may be less likely to get in the way of passengers feet.
I’ve rotated the extinguisher so the handle is a bit more out of the way. Thankfully there are no rattles from it .
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Yes, I’ve tried it a number of times - works very well
. You can get this same bracket in plastic and also, like this one, in metal - the two look almost exactly the same!I doubt either of us will ever need an extinguisher but better safe than sorry. I have actually seen a couple of cars on fire from oil, or fuel, leaks. There was a recent crash on the Nurburgring where a new Porsche GT3 RS crashed and burst into flames. Thankfully the driver was unhurt but it looked horrendous.
When I saw that crash I was astonished, but obviously relieved, to hear that both drivers were unhurt - the Porsche just explodes in flames!
The ‘PULL’ knob is captive and spring loaded. You pull on it and the bracket pivots out at the bottom - away from the ’PULL’ release. Half the bracket comes away from the extinguisher and remains strapped to it.
Yesterday I found myself driving across the ‘Snake Pass’ (A57) which is a mountain road in the Peak District - very twisty, lots of elevation changes, very beautiful. The weather was bright and clear and I found myself coming up behind a grey Mercedes. This Mercedes then proceeded to really put its foot down and tear ahead! I also put my foot down and was able to catch up and keep pace reasonably easily. But on closer inspection I was able to read the badges on the back of the Mercedes and it was an AMG A45 S. Now this is a £65,000.00 car with 415 BHP! However, it also weighs some 1600 Kg…. Undoubtedly the AMG is a very fast car but I suspect my ability to catch up and keep pace has more to do with the road we were on, essentially there is a limit to how fast you can go on such a twisty road. But my i20N is far from standard and much lighter than the AMG. In the end the AMG did a very late overtaking manoeuvre into a blind corner and by the time I was able to overtake I had lost it. However, I did see it again as I later passed it on the motorway and could see it was in a rather handsome satin grey paint finish - exclusive to this model I believe.
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I've often said to people when speaking about the i20N, it's not gonna win too many drag races, but take it to a twisty road and it'll give anything a run for it's money.