Hello,
How different does the car feel on this remap? did you get on the dyno?
I'm interested in getting remapped soon so I'm hoping you're going to tell me it feels much quicker!
Thanks!
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Tuning i20N Engine & ECU Tuning Discussion
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How different does the car feel on this remap? did you get on the dyno?
I'm interested in getting remapped soon so I'm hoping you're going to tell me it feels much quicker!
Thanks!
Maybe, best people to ask is Courtenay sport in the UK or Klasen Motors in Germany, has to be said though that the DTE/DTUK pedal box work exceptionally well.
In short, the answer is no - at least at the present. I recently had my car tuned by Courtenay Sport and discussed all this with them at the time. As a result I also use a DTUK pedal box which works very well.
So, with it being a few months now with numerous cars on the roads pushing extra power from remaps and such, let's consolidate results and what you can expect based on where you are.
The mods that make power are obvious across Europe and from, intake and intercooler, exhaust bits are better for torque and boost holding towards redline.
UK: not many tuners for hyundai out here and a lot of companies just intermittently working on these cars but average results are as follows
"Stage 1" (stock car, remap) - 230-240hp, 360-400nm
"Stage 2" (intake, IC, etc.) -245-255hp, 380-410nm
Germany: seems like the best place to be because you can access 102 fuel which can add up to 10hp and numerous HYUNDAI tuners that love these
"Stage 1" - 235-250hp, 370-410nm (102 fuel)
"Stage 2" - 250-270hp, 400-420nm (102 fuel)
Italy: again, 1 big tuner that's been working on these cars and 100RON fuel available
"Stage 1" - 235-240hp, 360-390nm
"Stage 2" - 245-260hp, 390-410nm
Few "stage 3" hybrid turbo cars across the world too, results seem to be about 290-320hp, 400+nm with the courtenay sport test car being notable at 304hp, 410nm on 99 RON and nearly 320hp, 430nm on 102 RON. claims have come out of AUS about cars hitting 330hp but I'm not sure about that one.
The main talking point about big power cars is engine component longevity, the big one being piston rods. obviously there'll be more info and data to come for a time period likely as long as we've waited for this car to be mappable but for now your varying scenarios will likely lead to above results and depending on where you take your car, some tuners will prioritise longevity over numbers and others will give you everything they can without causing damage. The turbo is still a limiter in the "stock" tuning process and it's hard to get it to hold much more than 1.1 bar at redline, but it's not as bad as originally presumed, 102 RON cars at a push in germany hitting high 260's-270hp on intake and intercooler.
Hope this is comprehensive enough lol
The mods that make power are obvious across Europe and from, intake and intercooler, exhaust bits are better for torque and boost holding towards redline.
UK: not many tuners for hyundai out here and a lot of companies just intermittently working on these cars but average results are as follows
"Stage 1" (stock car, remap) - 230-240hp, 360-400nm
"Stage 2" (intake, IC, etc.) -245-255hp, 380-410nm
Germany: seems like the best place to be because you can access 102 fuel which can add up to 10hp and numerous HYUNDAI tuners that love these
"Stage 1" - 235-250hp, 370-410nm (102 fuel)
"Stage 2" - 250-270hp, 400-420nm (102 fuel)
Italy: again, 1 big tuner that's been working on these cars and 100RON fuel available
"Stage 1" - 235-240hp, 360-390nm
"Stage 2" - 245-260hp, 390-410nm
Few "stage 3" hybrid turbo cars across the world too, results seem to be about 290-320hp, 400+nm with the courtenay sport test car being notable at 304hp, 410nm on 99 RON and nearly 320hp, 430nm on 102 RON. claims have come out of AUS about cars hitting 330hp but I'm not sure about that one.
The main talking point about big power cars is engine component longevity, the big one being piston rods. obviously there'll be more info and data to come for a time period likely as long as we've waited for this car to be mappable but for now your varying scenarios will likely lead to above results and depending on where you take your car, some tuners will prioritise longevity over numbers and others will give you everything they can without causing damage. The turbo is still a limiter in the "stock" tuning process and it's hard to get it to hold much more than 1.1 bar at redline, but it's not as bad as originally presumed, 102 RON cars at a push in germany hitting high 260's-270hp on intake and intercooler.
Hope this is comprehensive enough lol
Thanks for that info.So, with it being a few months now with numerous cars on the roads pushing extra power from remaps and such, let's consolidate results and what you can expect based on where you are.
The mods that make power are obvious across Europe and from, intake and intercooler, exhaust bits are better for torque and boost holding towards redline.
UK: not many tuners for hyundai out here and a lot of companies just intermittently working on these cars but average results are as follows
"Stage 1" (stock car, remap) - 230-240hp, 360-400nm
"Stage 2" (intake, IC, etc.) -245-255hp, 380-410nm
Germany: seems like the best place to be because you can access 102 fuel which can add up to 10hp and numerous HYUNDAI tuners that love these
"Stage 1" - 235-250hp, 370-410nm (102 fuel)
"Stage 2" - 250-270hp, 400-420nm (102 fuel)
Italy: again, 1 big tuner that's been working on these cars and 100RON fuel available
"Stage 1" - 235-240hp, 360-390nm
"Stage 2" - 245-260hp, 390-410nm
Few "stage 3" hybrid turbo cars across the world too, results seem to be about 290-320hp, 400+nm with the courtenay sport test car being notable at 304hp, 410nm on 99 RON and nearly 320hp, 430nm on 102 RON. claims have come out of AUS about cars hitting 330hp but I'm not sure about that one.
The main talking point about big power cars is engine component longevity, the big one being piston rods. obviously there'll be more info and data to come for a time period likely as long as we've waited for this car to be mappable but for now your varying scenarios will likely lead to above results and depending on where you take your car, some tuners will prioritise longevity over numbers and others will give you everything they can without causing damage. The turbo is still a limiter in the "stock" tuning process and it's hard to get it to hold much more than 1.1 bar at redline, but it's not as bad as originally presumed, 102 RON cars at a push in germany hitting high 260's-270hp on intake and intercooler.
Hope this is comprehensive enough lol
I would be more than happy with option one and a stock car stage 1 remap. With no reported engine failures yet that would seem to be a safe option for the long term and normal driving.
Stage 1 numbers are also achievable with a tuning box (my BT2 Evo gives 240hp and 386Nm, dynoed at a third party), without losing warranty
Around £500.00 to £600.00. These tunes do exist but not in the sense that all tuners have access to them - you would have to go to one of the few that offer them.Any idea on prices for stage 1 tune
London Surrey area for installation
are these tunes available now
thx in advance
That’s the claim of the seller. I did have a service with the box installed (but deactivated) and nobody told me anything… I think the claim comes from the fact that they can’t really see anything from the logs as the ECU is operating within its parameters ranges?
It would probably take an in depth analysis from someone that knows what to look for
That's only going to happen if you make a claim. You can assume they noted the modification in the records for that vehicle for future reference if there is a claim under warranty.
I've spoken to them and they sent me a sheet. Their peak figures are good but they fall away after 5k rpm to basically no better than stock at peak revs. Not sure if that's the best they can offer but that's all they've provided me thus far.
That's disappointing knowing that the turbo can hold boost at the top end and is better than expected.
Perhaps they have limits to what they can control and that's why their results are limited?
Yep, it's a bit underwhelming. I'm very keen to get this thing tuned as I have all the supporting mods to get decent gains but I'm not gonna pay full price for what amounts to a sub-par tune. Can't really afford to play guinea pig either.
That's the impression that I got from the reviews and there are quite a lot to confirm that.
If i'm going to risk the warranty I want it to be worthwhile or it's just not worth doing.
From what i've seen in Europe it can get substantial gains with a stage 1 tune while supporting mods gain little by comparison for their cost. That's why I want a good stage 1 tune but it looks like i'll be waiting to see that here.
Yeah, I hear you about the aftermarket parts, but honestly, I was always gonna do it anyway because I love working on things and buying parts gives me the excuse I need. A lot of my mods have been suspension items which have definitely improved the car. Also, as I've done all the work this far myself, I've gotten to know this thing pretty well along the way, which is never a bad thing.