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Engine Engine Oil Discussion
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Guys do you use your own oil for changes? If yes do you have any suggestions for the best suitable oil? And also Ive been studying a little the ACEA regulations and from the numbers point of view there is a minimal difference between ACEA C2 and C3, however C2 is supposed to save more fuel. Any experience with that? Thanks
Yeah I was just curious if the difference is marginal... Also seems to me that if you want to follow Hyundais requirements and secure the longest possible life of you engine then C3 is best option...
This is what I used along with a genuine oil filter: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B015EDWOZG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Greetings to all from Russia 
No one thought about the problem of LSPI? It seems to me that on our engines it is necessary to use oil with a low calcium content, but there is practically no such oil in the ACEA C2 certifications recommended by the manufacturer. There is a good mobil1 x1 5w30 oil, but it is certified by ACEA A5. Do you think it is possible to fill AСEA A5 in our engines instead of AСEA C2? Although certification is different, this oil contains little ash, about 0.84 and has little calcium in its composition.
No one thought about the problem of LSPI? It seems to me that on our engines it is necessary to use oil with a low calcium content, but there is practically no such oil in the ACEA C2 certifications recommended by the manufacturer. There is a good mobil1 x1 5w30 oil, but it is certified by ACEA A5. Do you think it is possible to fill AСEA A5 in our engines instead of AСEA C2? Although certification is different, this oil contains little ash, about 0.84 and has little calcium in its composition.
Wouldn't use it in this engine. It's good oil but not for this engine.Greetings to all from Russia
No one thought about the problem of LSPI? It seems to me that on our engines it is necessary to use oil with a low calcium content, but there is practically no such oil in the ACEA C2 certifications recommended by the manufacturer. There is a good mobil1 x1 5w30 oil, but it is certified by ACEA A5. Do you think it is possible to fill AСEA A5 in our engines instead of AСEA C2? Although certification is different, this oil contains little ash, about 0.84 and has little calcium in its composition.
OK, why? The HTHS in the ACEA A5 and ACEA C2 classifications is almost the same, i.e. engine damage should not be.
If it is a warranty , how can they prove that I was pouring the wrong oil?
I can fill in their recommended oil during routine maintenance, get a print in a book, and then go to my service and immediately change to another
I just want my engine to work long and well after the warranty period.
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If it is a warranty , how can they prove that I was pouring the wrong oil?
I can fill in their recommended oil during routine maintenance, get a print in a book, and then go to my service and immediately change to another
That would be fraud. However, it might be hard to prove that for hyundai (or any car manufacturer at all).
In general, the basic difference between ACEA A and C oils is that C oils are intended for use with catalytic converters (which our cars have) and without offense but I suppose the guys over at hyundai N spent some more time thinking about which oil is appropriate than you did. If you want to move away from manufacturer suggestions then I would go for a different viscosities (which also might depend on where exactly you live) but stick with C2 or higher.
By the way, I want to note that cars are sold in Russia under the Euro-5 standard, while in Europe - with Euro-6.
Previously, when all T-GDIs were under Euro 5, just the same oil with ACEA A5 classification was recommended for them.
And the safety of the catalyst does not really bother me, because I will cut it out
I do not want to say that I am smarter than engineers from Hyundai, it just seems to me that they did not puzzle over and rewrite the instructions and indicated ACEA C2 in it for all cars, because most of the cars go under the Euro-6 standard, and with Euro-5 we brought only 120 pieces to Russia.
Still its cheating on the warranty terms. If you're fine with that go for it, I wont be coming over to russia to stop you. Just be aware of the fact that Hyundai might check everything they can if they have a weird feeling about your car in case of a warrany claim (or maybe even if they dont) and if they find anything you can only blame yourself.
Of course, I understand all this, that if they suddenly find out something, it will be only my problems.
Unfortunately, they worry more about the environment than the LSPI problem, and I don't like it.
Hi All
It seems Hyundai recommends Shell Helix C2 0W-30 oil for the car. Sticker under bonnet has sticker saying A3 ???
When asked a local dealer said they don't use Shell Oil but use another manufacturer with same 0W-30 properties.
Don't manufacturers of cars develop engines with certain oils for a reason? My understanding is that all oils can be different blends with similar but not the same properties as other oils by other manufacturers having the same C2 or 0W-30. Why do manufacturers develop oils if they are "the same" ?
What oil do you all use???
It seems Hyundai recommends Shell Helix C2 0W-30 oil for the car. Sticker under bonnet has sticker saying A3 ???
When asked a local dealer said they don't use Shell Oil but use another manufacturer with same 0W-30 properties.
Don't manufacturers of cars develop engines with certain oils for a reason? My understanding is that all oils can be different blends with similar but not the same properties as other oils by other manufacturers having the same C2 or 0W-30. Why do manufacturers develop oils if they are "the same" ?
What oil do you all use???
Brand matters not (as long as it is a reputable one), as long as the classification meets or exceeds manufacturer's recommendations you're fine.
At 1,500km the dealer put in Mobil Super3000 XE 5W-30. At 5,000km I had a mate who is a qualified mechanic (documented for warranty purposes) put in Shell Helix Ultra Professional 5W-30. At 10,000km the dealer put in Castrol Edge Professional OE-X 5W-30.
Do you have it checked in the last maintenance report? Anyways, this should not be the case. Could we have a pic of the dipstick with some oil on it? (in case it's too large, imgur works fine)
I haven't been under it to check the filter... I won't be using that dealer again thats for sure.
I need to get a copy of the service record.
I need to get a copy of the service record.