• Welcome to N-cars.net - the largest Hyundai N car forum. Check out the model specific sections below and scroll down for country specific forums. Scroll down for i30 N, Ioniq 5 N, i20 N, Veloster N and Kona N forums! Check out the i30 N Bible Here!
Drag to reposition cover

i30 N Bu11eT's Melody

Toggle sidebar Toggle sidebar
Finally got the replacement for my Mando ECS10 Suspension Tuning box.
If some of you followed the proper thread in the Suspension category (Link), you may have noticed the small challenges I had with the box.

For those of you not familiar with the topic:
The ECS10 is a suspension tuning box developed by Mando, the company producing the stock dampers in our Ns, which allows you to change the ride stiffness depending on your needs.
Initially I got send the box with firmware v1 installed, apparently that causes issues with some i30Ns models. So I sent it back and today my replacement arrived - with v2 installed. It all took about 1.5 Months because of COVID-19 delays...

Regarding the box:
Only had time to test it briefly today, but I must say the improvements made to the damper control by Mando are brilliant!
Especially in N mode on bad streets the rebound behavior changes from throwing you around in the car, to a more sophisticated, smoother feeling.
Instead of having one instant, hard rebound and multiple smaller ones following up, you now get one softer rebound without the small follow ups.
But at the same time the car does not feel sluggish or leans into corners too much. Feels well engineered!

Maybe I get some time on the weekend to test it out at higher speeds on the autobahn, I am curious if improves are noticeable when going a bit faster ;)
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: KurvenKrieger, Jajodu, Doddsy and 3 others
And the Wiechers strut brace is also in ✌

What a pain to get the holes in the correct shape and size.
Me and @WoLf130 checked the fitment of the plastic cover about a dozen times before it was "okay".
Still not 100%, but the modified holders for the strut brace make a perfect fitment impossible :confused:.

Let's say it fits "good enough".

Even had it powder-coated in matte black to make it fit the engine compartment a bit better - again big thanks to @WoLf130 for helping out 🙏

XoPc78Y.jpg
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: KurvenKrieger, blackhawk12, Jajodu and 4 others
So today @WoLf130, a mate and me installed our Wagner Tuning Intercoolers at a friend's workshop.

Always having a good time working on more than one car at a time together with a few mates :p

Here's a little clip halfway through the mounting process (pic credits go to @WoLf130) :
WhatsApp Image 2020-06-27 at 16.35.12.jpeg

Instead of the typical installation-blah-blah I thought I provide a few numbers to compare my stock intercooler against the WT Intercooler.

Just a disclaimer: Numbers were logged with Torque Pro, the Stock numbers this morning and the WT-Numbers this evening. Still, it was plenty hot outside, which you can see in the graph as well ;).

What's not really shown here: On the Autobahn the new IC barely makes a difference, but on country roads, especially when you floor it leaving a village (c'mon you know you do it too 😅) the difference is noticeable, because the stock IC can't keep up at lower speeds.

What do you guys think of the numbers?
oGDGlpp.png




Next week my N is going in for some custom-exhaust loveliness 🥰, excited like a little child!
 
  • Like
  • Love
Reactions: KurvenKrieger, NULLOBANDITO, blackhawk12 and 5 others
Bu11eT said:
So today @WoLf130, a mate and me installed our Wagner Tuning Intercoolers at a friend's workshop.

Always having a good time working on more than one car at a time together with a few mates :p

Here's a little clip halfway through the mounting process (pic credits go to @WoLf130) :
View attachment 14045

Instead of the typical installation-blah-blah I thought I provide a few numbers to compare my stock intercooler against the WT Intercooler.

Just a disclaimer: Numbers were logged with Torque Pro, the Stock numbers this morning and the WT-Numbers this evening. Still, it was plenty hot outside, which you can see in the graph as well ;).

What's not really shown here: On the Autobahn the new IC barely makes a difference, but on country roads, especially when you floor it leaving a village (c'mon you know you do it too 😅) the difference is noticeable, because the stock IC can't keep up at lower speeds.

What do you guys think of the numbers?
oGDGlpp.png
Click to expand...
I want one too🤩😄
 
  • Haha
Reactions: Bu11eT
Yesterday, I dropped my lady off to the exhaust workshop for some proper Downpipe madness (talking metal kat, 3.5" pipes and GPF enhancements).
Together we disassembled the whole downpipe including the GPF. Had a bit of of a struggle with removal of the 2nd lambda sensor, but luckily he had the right tools available to get it out - although requiring lots of force. But it came out in one piece :)

Can pick her up at the 12th again. Already took sound samples of the stock exhaust as well as measures of the stock downpipe components to compare before and after. Unfortunately we didn't have time to make a proper dyno run with the stock exhaust, but we could measure 100-200 km/h instead.

Stay tuned for a detailed post about the downpipe and it's components as well as it's legality in Germany ;).

If you have any questions I should ask the guy from the workshop, just ask them here or shoot me a PM, he knows lots about this topic and makes top tier fully-custom exhaust systems for all kinds of car models. It's all individual welding by himself.

Also, for the 14th and 15th I got her booked in for an extended 30k service. Why extended you might ask, well:

- New windscreen (the old one had a stone chip on the driver side)
- Fischer braided brake lines
- Goodyear Eagle F1 SuperSport tires (still had the stock Pirellis on there, they are really shot o_O)
- Minor fixes e.g one of the cupholder clips was missing
 
  • Like
Reactions: KurvenKrieger, NULLOBANDITO, Kchar and 5 others
Got her back from the 30k service, like mentioned in my previous post the dealer did the following things in addition to the normal service:

- New windscreen (the old one had a stone chip on the driver side)
- Fischer braided brake lines
- Goodyear Eagle F1 SuperSport tires (still had the stock Pirellis on there, they are really shot o_O)
- Minor fixes e.g one of the cupholder clips was missing

Car had to be with them over night, to let the glue for the windscreen dry up.

Here's a clip how the new tires look like on the car. Have to say, they really are far superior to the stock PZeros. Super happy with how they perform and how they look. Was not sure how good they'd look mounted, as they don't stretch as much as the PZeros do :)

Video Unavailable

This video is unavailable.
streamable.com streamable.com

---

I've also received a new set of tailpipes from ATH, since the paint of the old ones did not withstand the exhaust heat. Just gave them a call and they offered to replace them for free :) - good customer service!
The new ones look a bit different, as they have a new heat-resistant coating applied to them. All new tailpipes from ATH will have this new coating when they'll be delivered.


Clip of the new ones mounted:

streamable.com

20200715_130723

Watch "20200715_130723" on Streamable.
streamable.com streamable.com

Old pipes
BrtiGeU.jpg


Left side new, right side old
VtGBvlz.jpg


New ones mounted
8VZ6rXy.jpg


---

And finally I've got a pic of the Fischer braided brake lines for you. Ordered the red ones (although it looks quite funny with my yellow springs :D)

6BoU60m.jpg
 
  • Like
  • Love
Reactions: KurvenKrieger, Flanker75, NULLOBANDITO and 7 others
You better be in the middle of posting noise clips of the new sound coming out of those exhaust tips - otherwise there will be trouble...
 
  • Haha
Reactions: Bu11eT
On Sunday I finally got to pick up my N-Lady from the Workshop again :D

Disassembly

It started off with disassembly which we did a few days prior. Had to remove my strut-brace again, so we could remove the stock heat-shield.
Also, getting out the second lambda-sensor was a real pain in the a$$, luckily my mate from MotorKrep had the right tools at hand, so we could get it out in one piece.
Here's a small gallery with the stock components and their measurements:

https://imgur.com/a/nhAydKH


Assembly

After Mr. MotorKrep himself welded everything specced to the car we went ahead and reassembled everything...
The assembly-process went butter-smooth no hiccups or issues whatsoever.
A few pics of the new components and their measurements.
You can see, that the inlets have been worked out way smoother than on other downpipes, there is nothing standing in the direct flow of the exhaust gases.

https://imgur.com/a/JjIw9k1


Result

First, a pic of the MotorKrep Downpipe compared to the stock one:
68UKIg4.jpg


After initial startup you could definitely hear a difference to the stock exhaust. Keep in mind, the GPF is still in place and it improved the stock sound significantly.
It got a bit louder and the sound changed to be a tiny bit more aggressive, I'd describe it as "a bit more rough". The pops & bangs as well as the burbles all got more and also a bit louder.
In terms of performance the gain is gigantic (if I may say so :D), my N feels like a different car!
Above 4k RPM the car just pulls and pulls and pulls. We even measured 100-200 km/h times, they improved from 18.5s to 16.8s just by installing the Downpipe.
So not only does it feel faster, it IS faster :D

KdUvUr6.jpg


To conclude this, I am super happy with the new Downpipe it improves the performance of the car, it is well-engineered and it improves the sound as well :)
To finish things off, here's a little before and after sound-wise:




To the guys asking whether this is legal in Germany, here's the answer:
Similar to the Downpipes from FMS or HJS, the core of the GPF does not get touched at all.
The only thing we are doing, is to improve it's performance by letting more exhaust-gases reach the outer cells of the GPF.
That way, we can make it work more efficiently and it decreases the pressure built-up from the exhaust gases.

In terms of the Cat, the stock Cat for the i30N is identical between the Non-GPF and the GPF model.
Thus, taking the ECE-approved HJS Cat and installing it into the GPF model is not an issue.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
  • Love
Reactions: KurvenKrieger, Calbee, Pastiche and 7 others
Just got my new springs from ST. Those are only a set for the front.

ihbYOvA.jpg


Apparently, the old ones had a too tight winding and were therefore making these weird rubbing and knocking sounds. Few months ago I posted a small sound clip in this thread:
n-cars.net

Suspension and Chassis - Knocking sound while driving over bumps / steering

Hi guys, so as some of you may know I've got the ST 20/20 springs. Since they've been installed I noticed two things: 1. A sound when standing still and steering (Knocking-like sound) I am just sitting in the car at a standstill and I am steering half way to the left and afterwards half way to...
n-cars.net n-cars.net

For those too lazy to click, here are the links to the two sound files again:
Soundfile #1 (knocking sound while stationary)
Soundfile #2 (wiggle(?) sound while driving over speedbumps)

The whole story was a bit more complex, since KW (which ST belongs to) did not recognize the issue at first and only because bigger influencers on Instagram started talking about it, they finally gave way and accepted my warranty claim. The new springs will go in on Thursday if everything goes to plan. Hoping for the best...

And I am also curious if I'll get my money (which I have to pay for the installation & alignment) back. They have absolutely not been a breeze to deal with...
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: KurvenKrieger, GazmaN, Kchar and 2 others
You must log in or register to reply here.

Top Bottom