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Gearbox 3500 miles in - Gear 2, 4 and 6 got stiffer..

Last one this is killing me! I need to buy another TTRS!!:p These Audi S-1 Quattro 5 cylinders had so much horsepower and were so fast, they had to eventually stop the Group B Class! The WRC Cars now, pale in comparison.

Thing is the WRC uses many of the same stages now that they used in the 1980's and a current 2019 1.6L turbo WRC car with 395bhp is much, much faster than any time set by a Group B car on any stage in the championship. Granted the sound is different and the spectacle is reduced by the cars unreal damping systems but modern WRC transmission tech and damping with 14" wheel travel is a world away from 80's tech.

The S1 though sounds glorious and even better with a PDK gearbox in the late model as it just never dropped from that 5cyl howl.
 
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This is one of the reasons they stopped the Group B's. The were far too hard to handle and the power was overwhelming. Walter Röhrl even commented to, "the violence of the S-1."

Why did Group B rally get banned?
Such was the fate of Group B rally cars, which weren't banned because of a competitive advantage but because of safety issues — a ban even the most ardent thrill seeker could support. ... The FIA, which oversees rally racing, decided that the entire Group B class was simply too dangerous and shut it down.

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/motorsport/corner-killed-group-b

https://www.projectcarsgame.com/b-f...s-in-history-come-to-the-fun-pack/?lang=en-us

Some really good reading as to why!
 
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Hello, this Tuesday I take the Hyundai dealership to look at the problems I perceived in the 1,2,3 change and reverse, the coincidence is what is most commonly used in the city but the 1400km that the car has is more of long trips using the 5 and 6 gear than those if they are perfect, we will see what news they give me I am worried.

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Don't worry, it won't help anything and you've got a good warranty. It's Hyundai's problem and they have to fix it. It's more than likely the linkage which needs to be adjusted. It's a fairly quick fix.:D
 
Don't worry, it won't help anything and you've got a good warranty. It's Hyundai's problem and they have to fix it. It's more than likely the linkage which needs to be adjusted. It's a fairly quick fix.:D

Actually there is a lot to worry about and rightly so. Linkage? Sure, but why is linkage going wrong at 1400km? What kind of useless QC are we experiencing here?

There are so many people on this forum suffering from various gearbox problems, some worse than others. This is not to be ignored and the only time Hyundai will start listening and doing something about it, is when people reject and return their cars, so the dealers start taking losses.

Just a thought :)

Hello, this Tuesday I take the Hyundai dealership to look at the problems I perceived in the 1,2,3 change and reverse, the coincidence is what is most commonly used in the city but the 1400km that the car has is more of long trips using the 5 and 6 gear than those if they are perfect, we will see what news they give me I am worried.

Fastback N

5th and 6th gear grinding/not going in properly is a synchro issue, as documented on this forum.

However since you are experiencing R, 1, 2 and 3 then I would say either shifter cables, linkage adjustment or something within the box itself. Hyundai will be able to diagnose it for you, let us know how you get on!
 
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No offense meant whatsoever. I'm not jumping you personally for your thoughts, comments or opinions in particular. On the contrary, I'm simply looking at these particular issues in a positive light and expectation.:D

Cables stretch with heat and usage. If they weren't improperly adjusted outside of specifications during the assembly process and left the factory this way, they'll quickly become out of adjustment. As in your suggestion of, 1400 km's. If they had a bad batch of cables for some reason, it will happen with the specific 30N's in which they were installed. Neither of which you're or I are personally in control of.

@XxSamu93xX didn't reference anything wrong with 5th and 6th, just 1, 2, 3, & reverse engagement. This alone leads me to believe, the cable and linkage adjustment are at fault. Engagement of 1 ,2, 3 as well as reverse, utilize one of the the two existing cables.

I understand it's easy sometime to be disgruntled and upset about the way things have gone. However, it doesn't mean these issues are happening with every i30N on the road. As a matter of fact, the vast majority of owners, haven't had the issues. Those who have, let Hyundai diagnosis and repair the issue/s successfully. Those owners are happy with the result, outcome and are still driving the car daily.

I respect your personal choice to turn the vehicle back into Hyundai but it doesn't mean I agree with everything your alluding to necessarily.:) You have your reasons and they're valid, especially more so to your personage. However, not everyone thinks alike.;)

Sometimes we get the pig in a poke, everyone does sooner or later the older we are and more cars we purchase. I've had my share as well. It's simply not about sharing the our complaints or ill feelings. It's more about how each and everyone of us personally handle and recover from them. Meaning, with a positive thought process, attitude and moving forward confidently, accepting the way things are. Not how we personally want them to be. Life just doesn't work this way.

Worrying about these issues or any for that matter is useless. It doesn't affect a change in the status, the way the issues are being repaired or the probable outcome. We simply aren't in control of them.

Frankly, I believe Hyundai's reliability is excellent. There is no reason exacerbate someone else's personal feelings or our group concerns, over known/unknown possible issue/s.

Forums and web specific pages and groups, focus complaints from those who feel, there is an overall issue with their personal quality of life or desires. Doesn't mean it is necessarily so or true to form. It can be seen everyday with minority groups on the Internet. These groups, are yelling the loudest about their particular personal interests, feelings, desire and complaints, valid or not. They simply aren't speaking for the majority and the same goes on this forum as well.

Hyundai will deal with the issues, one way or another. I don't wish anyone ill will, especially Hyundai. If there is a overall manufacturing issue, I believe Hyundai will find it and make the necessary adjustment to the assembly process.:) There's no conspiracy and certainly no purposeful issue/s, that aren't repairable.

I simply choose to look at and pass on a positive perspective to someone within my scope of knowledge. Rather than a negative or pessimistic one. The same here with this issue/s or with anyone personally. Lets just say, I'd rather reflect and dwell on the brighter side than the darker one. Passing on good will, rather than a poor one.

I'm not ignoring anything either. I'm just looking at it with different set of eyes. With all the complaints, there is always a good side. Sometimes we just need to be patient, stop trying to control everything and let the happen.

Please excuse and I apologize for the long winded response! Merry Christmas!:D

Cheers
 
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Actually there is a lot to worry about and rightly so. Linkage? Sure, but why is linkage going wrong at 1400km? What kind of useless QC are we experiencing here?

There are so many people on this forum suffering from various gearbox problems, some worse than others. This is not to be ignored and the only time Hyundai will start listening and doing something about it, is when people reject and return their cars, so the dealers start taking losses.

Just a thought :)



5th and 6th gear grinding/not going in properly is a synchro issue, as documented on this forum.

However since you are experiencing R, 1, 2 and 3 then I would say either shifter cables, linkage adjustment or something within the box itself. Hyundai will be able to diagnose it for you, let us know how you get on!

Wait a sec: let’s say 20 separate individuals with 5/6th gear issues. 20either doesn’t sound like much or it does, but I urge you so consider the many especially post about it repeatedly...making it seem far more than it really is.

This forum has 4000 members. That membership is massively enriched by people with issues. They will specifically congregate here as if they google “i30N gearbox issues” - it’s the top 3 hits. Ditto for “i30N issue”.

So 20/4000 = 0.7% and represents a massive over representation compared to the general population. In AU they sold ~900 hatch/fastback i30Ns in 2019...

Not saying it doesn’t suck, but let’s have some perspective.

Reminds me of the “2500 rpm rattle” that “everyone had” on the cbr250 forum back in the day lol
 
Wait a sec: let’s say 20 separate individuals with 5/6th gear issues. 20either doesn’t sound like much or it does, but I urge you so consider the many especially post about it repeatedly...making it seem far more than it really is.

This forum has 4000 members. That membership is massively enriched by people with issues. They will specifically congregate here as if they google “i30N gearbox issues” - it’s the top 3 hits. Ditto for “i30N issue”.

So 20/4000 = 0.7% and represents a massive over representation compared to the general population. In AU they sold ~900 hatch/fastback i30Ns in 2019...

Not saying it doesn’t suck, but let’s have some perspective.

Reminds me of the “2500 rpm rattle” that “everyone had” on the cbr250 forum back in the day lol
You've given me a great idea for a new thread...
 
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Hello, if I will keep you informed of how I solve the problem of 1,2,3 and R. On Tuesday they look at me, what happens this problem exists when the car is running when it does not seem to give this problem so we will see .
 
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No offense meant whatsoever. I'm not jumping you personally for your thoughts, comments or opinions in particular. On the contrary, I'm simply looking at these particular issues in a positive light and expectation.:D

Cables stretch with heat and usage. If they weren't improperly adjusted outside of specifications during the assembly process and left the factory this way, they'll quickly become out of adjustment. As in your suggestion of, 1400 km's. If they had a bad batch of cables for some reason, it will happen with the specific 30N's in which they were installed. Neither of which you're or I are personally in control of.

@XxSamu93xX didn't reference anything wrong with 5th and 6th, just 1, 2, 3, & reverse engagement. This alone leads me to believe, the cable and linkage adjustment are at fault. Engagement of 1 ,2, 3 as well as reverse, utilize one of the the two existing cables.

I understand it's easy sometime to be disgruntled and upset about the way things have gone. However, it doesn't mean these issues are happening with every i30N on the road. As a matter of fact, the vast majority of owners, haven't had the issues. Those who have, let Hyundai diagnosis and repair the issue/s successfully. Those owners are happy with the result, outcome and are still driving the car daily.

I respect your personal choice to turn the vehicle back into Hyundai but it doesn't mean I agree with everything your alluding to necessarily.:) You have your reasons and they're valid, especially more so to your personage. However, not everyone thinks alike.;)

Sometimes we get the pig in a poke, everyone does sooner or later the older we are and more cars we purchase. I've had my share as well. It's simply not about sharing the our complaints or ill feelings. It's more about how each and everyone of us personally handle and recover from them. Meaning, with a positive thought process, attitude and moving forward confidently, accepting the way things are. Not how we personally want them to be. Life just doesn't work this way.

Worrying about these issues or any for that matter is useless. It doesn't affect a change in the status, the way the issues are being repaired or the probable outcome. We simply aren't in control of them.

Frankly, I believe Hyundai's reliability is excellent. There is no reason exacerbate someone else's personal feelings or our group concerns, over known/unknown possible issue/s.

Forums and web specific pages and groups, focus complaints from those who feel, there is an overall issue with their personal quality of life or desires. Doesn't mean it is necessarily so or true to form. It can be seen everyday with minority groups on the Internet. These groups, are yelling the loudest about their particular personal interests, feelings, desire and complaints, valid or not. They simply aren't speaking for the majority and the same goes on this forum as well.

Hyundai will deal with the issues, one way or another. I don't wish anyone ill will, especially Hyundai. If there is a overall manufacturing issue, I believe Hyundai will find it and make the necessary adjustment to the assembly process.:) There's no conspiracy and certainly no purposeful issue/s, that aren't repairable.

I simply choose to look at and pass on a positive perspective to someone within my scope of knowledge. Rather than a negative or pessimistic one. The same here with this issue/s or with anyone personally. Lets just say, I'd rather reflect and dwell on the brighter side than the darker one. Passing on good will, rather than a poor one.

I'm not ignoring anything either. I'm just looking at it with different set of eyes. With all the complaints, there is always a good side. Sometimes we just need to be patient, stop trying to control everything and let the happen.

Please excuse and I apologize for the long winded response! Merry Christmas!:D

Cheers

Let's not let facts get in the way of a good rant. I mean if this happens to one car, it must happen to them all right?
 
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Let's not let facts get in the way of a good rant. I mean if this happens to one car, it must happen to them all right?

I've had issues with 2 cars in a row. To me this is unacceptable, regardless of what anyone says.

Just got a call from the dealer, the manager himself has driven it after rectifying their previous work, and he is happy with it. So I ll be right back, time to pick up this "bulletproof machinery" :D
 
Right, so it's back home now. They seem to have fixed what it went in for and as I thought, it was shifter cable related:

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Car wise, it feels good to drive. All gears now go in smoothly, no notchiness and no weird grinding/not getting into gear, even goes into 1st well when coming to a stop!

Almost feels like, this is how it should of been when I took delivery :D !

One thing I noticed however, and it sort of scared me, was when I pulled out of a junction at full throttle in first gear, there was a loud bang, coming from the front passenger side which literally caused a vibration throughout the body of the vehicle. It lit up a red light on the dash for a millisecond and then went away. Didn't have enough time to read or see what it was, and have been trying to re-produce it without luck. Will try again later when there is less traffic about.

My 2 cents on the above is, they probably forgot to tighten something up to spec again, but let's just hope it's a one off. It's always launched well in first gear, didn't even wheel hop much to be honest so this was a bit of a shock lol.
 
Right, so it's back home now. They seem to have fixed what it went in for and as I thought, it was shifter cable related:

AZIBIwVh.jpg



Car wise, it feels good to drive. All gears now go in smoothly, no notchiness and no weird grinding/not getting into gear, even goes into 1st well when coming to a stop!

Almost feels like, this is how it should of been when I took delivery :D !

One thing I noticed however, and it sort of scared me, was when I pulled out of a junction at full throttle in first gear, there was a loud bang, coming from the front passenger side which literally caused a vibration throughout the body of the vehicle. It lit up a red light on the dash for a millisecond and then went away. Didn't have enough time to read or see what it was, and have been trying to re-produce it without luck. Will try again later when there is less traffic about.

My 2 cents on the above is, they probably forgot to tighten something up to spec again, but let's just hope it's a one off. It's always launched well in first gear, didn't even wheel hop much to be honest so this was a bit of a shock lol.

I’m glad you’ve got the car that you should have had from day one mate. I’m no Hyundai lover (or basher for that matter). You are simply stating the issues that you have had with your car.

For what it’s worth, that level of back and forth with dealers/techs and the many problems you’ve had, would have tested even the greatest advocate of this car.

I remember my wife fell in love with the 2012
civic (don’t laugh). First ever brand new car ever bought. Nothing but problems and we ended up both hating it.

Hopefully you can get some enjoyment out of the N before you jump ship.
 
Is that real? Sorry just in from work so not able to engage my brain yet.
I think it is. At least it gives me a good laugh every time I watch this video ;)

@iiNNEX I'm glad to hear of a fast turnaround. Hopefully that is the end of it and you will keep the car. last time you posted that RS3 video, I spent 2 hours looking at C63... don't do that again to me please :D
 
I think it is. At least it gives me a good laugh every time I watch this video ;)

@iiNNEX I'm glad to hear of a fast turnaround. Hopefully that is the end of it and you will keep the car. last time you posted that RS3 video, I spent 2 hours looking at C63... don't do that again to me please :D

It’s hilarious. It really is and if it’s not real then it’s really cleverly edited:cool:
 
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I think it is. At least it gives me a good laugh every time I watch this video ;)

@iiNNEX I'm glad to hear of a fast turnaround. Hopefully that is the end of it and you will keep the car. last time you posted that RS3 video, I spent 2 hours looking at C63... don't do that again to me please :D

Well I have already filed the claim so doubt I'd keep it, but there is potentially a V8 on the cards as replacement. Waiting on some further details from Hyundai Finance before I commit to another vehicle. IF I don't get all of my money back, then I probably won't jump ship yet, we'll see. I have a solid case for it and unfortunately I have given Hyundai so many chances, especially when you consider this is the second faulty vehicle I have from them.

I might have come across really angry in some of my other posts, and really I was, but honestly I am a nice person that has really been tested with all this messing about.

I will keep you guys updated, the forum has been nothing but helpful to me so even if I jump, I will still be on here for some laughs, who knows maybe make a build thread here too :)
 
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Well I have already filed the claim so doubt I'd keep it, but there is potentially a V8 on the cards as replacement. Waiting on some further details from Hyundai Finance before I commit to another vehicle. IF I don't get all of my money back, then I probably won't jump ship yet, we'll see. I have a solid case for it and unfortunately I have given Hyundai so many chances, especially when you consider this is the second faulty vehicle I have from them.

I might have come across really angry in some of my other posts, and really I was, but honestly I am a nice person that has really been tested with all this messing about.

I will keep you guys updated, the forum has been nothing but helpful to me so even if I jump, I will still be on here for some laughs, who knows maybe make a build thread here too :)
we all have the right to vent our frustrations sometimes. especially when it is taking longer than usual to fix something or just to get heard.

now with you mentioning a V8, I just remembered about e92 M3's. damn you. I am going to spend another few hours on autotrader :D
 
we all have the right to vent our frustrations sometimes. especially when it is taking longer than usual to fix something or just to get heard.

now with you mentioning a V8, I just remembered about e92 M3's. damn you. I am going to spend another few hours on autotrader :D
Spot on ;) here is some pleasure for your ears:
 
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