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First oil change
- Thread starter Gregi30n
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Be careful. Infrequent short trips can be harsher for engine wear than longer trips.
Rather than messing around with jacking the car, grab a couple of plastic ramps from Repco for $90 to make it easier. They'll pay for themselves after the first use.
Rather than messing around with jacking the car, grab a couple of plastic ramps from Repco for $90 to make it easier. They'll pay for themselves after the first use.
I just made a couple of ramps out of bits of wood left over while doing a fill in building job some 25 years ago now. Bit of Plywood for the base and some 100x50 and some 200x50 and job done. Took about 30minutes to knock together on a lunch break. Always use them for an oil change at home.
No thanks, the label says Ford, Land rover and Jaguar and the cost of it is horrific over here at $170 for 5 litres.
I will stick to Mobil 1 and Castrol Edge 5W-30. Have run these for over 30 years, the engine lasts forever.
Prefer to see the words Porsche and Mercedes on the label myself.
Each to their own, if you forget to change it every 10,000km doesn't matter what you use.
Yes its expensive, but definitely one of the Better oils available. I change mine every 5k, and as to viscosity, the manual say 0w-30, and im confident Hyundai engineers know what they are doing. For warranty sake ill stick with their recommendations personally.
That is the funniest thing I have read all year.Put Mobile 1 in the 2.0T Theta II and you’ll have coking issues with the turbocharger.
Take it from me having rebuilt my own turbo, you get coking of the turbo seals with cheap crap mineral oils that cannot handle the heat. The turbine oil seal is subject to ridiculous temperatures even with a water cooled CHRA. Not changing your oil, any oil eventually results in saturation and the oil can no longer hold the carbon in suspension and it settles out all over the place, in particular the underside of the cam cover if you have ever pulled one.
Please don't put up bad advice on a public forum, the Mobil 1 ESP 5W-30 is Mercedes rated for the likes of the A45S that has a 416Hp 2 litre turbo engine that's totally next level to the i30N.
The climate here never goes below zero in the garage, no need to ever run a 0W oil here. There is also too much emphasis on fuel economy running the likes of 0-20W oils rather than your engine lasting 30 years. There are plenty of mainstream oils of excellent quality about there days, oil tech has come a long way over the years with synthetics.
Anyway its your car you run whatever you like in it, doesn't worry me.
Looks like your easily amused.
We owned a GLA45 AMG and personally didn’t run Mobile 1 in it either. Spent the extra money on much better oil. I don’t really care if it worries you or not. Was provided as experienced information.
First thing, you don’t own an i30N yet, nor have you before. Second thing, you have no idea or experience what works well in a 2.0T Theta II engine. Maybe, toning it down some, reading and learning something about a car will help.
The rest you provided, is subjective and inconsequential.
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Cannot wait to hear about what you call a "much better oil".
So after a bit of research it turns out you probably cannot buy either of these in your part of the world....
www.mobil.com
So after a bit of research it turns out you probably cannot buy either of these in your part of the world....
Hyundai Engine Oil | Synthetic Engine Oil | Mobil in SAP
Explore the variety of Mobil™ engine oils suitable for Hyundai models such as the Hyundai i30 and Hyundai Tucson, including petrol and diesel engine oils.
www.mobil.com
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???? Your assumption and assertion is incorrect once again.Cannot wait to hear about what you call a "much better oil".
So after a bit of research it turns out you probably cannot buy either of these in your part of the world....
Hyundai Engine Oil | Synthetic Engine Oil | Mobil in SAP
Explore the variety of Mobil™ engine oils suitable for Hyundai models such as the Hyundai i30 and Hyundai Tucson, including petrol and diesel engine oils.
We can buy anything we want it’s a big wide world. It includes Mobile 1 or Castrol Edge (which you use) at Walmart, Service Station quick stops or any number of franchised or non franchised parts outlets right off the shelves. They can be purchased online as well, from anywhere in the world. It’s called the internet, seriously!?
You really don’t know what your talking about do you? Historically, Castrol Edge and Mobile1, where both released in the US several decades ago. So instead of just accepting it‘s widely availability in the US, you make false comments attempting to argue your opinion. Frankly you’re making it up, grasping for straws as you go.
I’m not going to argue your opinion, especially one that is base-less and or fact-less.Personally I refrain from buying any oil which based upon factual research is inferior to specialty oils, for example; Amsoil, Cerma etc. However, this is me and I don't cast doubt upon anyone else who doesn't.
Let’s jump back to your first comments regarding Mobile 1 and Castrol Edge motor oils.; You’re entire basis of commentary revolves around one main point; buying ”cheaper oil“ which indicates its approved by Mercedes Benz or Porsche. Additionally, based upon what you’ve previously used in other cars. This is of course, excluding the Hyundai i30N which you don’t own yet.
Do you understand Mercedes Benz and Porsche get paid by Mobile to advertise their product in their manufactures specifications?
Mobile is exactly where I’d go for an actual unbiased comparison of oils…………not! Don’t worry they won’t lie to you. It’s on the internet, so it has to be true, right?
Bottomline in this discussion; everything you’ve eluded to up till now is personally subjective. Try looking at the actually research provided by unbiased oil comparisons and oil laboratories, before trying to convince others what you use is the best thing since sliced bread.
Buy and use what oil you want, I’m not bothered. However, don’t talk down to others that have different opinions. First consider; some owners basis of selection and utilization, are made on factual unbiased research. Not only from in-depth comparisons but oil laboratory results. Just like with Blackstone Laboratories provides.
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So you waffled on but still didn't tell us what oil you put in your i30N ?
So the actual i30N user manual I found online recommends Shell Helix 0W-30, it is printed as clear as day on page 7-21 and 8-6 with their full on logo, but hey Shell probably paid Hyundai to put that there. Safe to assume that the Hyundai dealer supplies Shell in their plain grey containers if you want what they call "genuine oil".
To be honest an upgrade would be Castrol Edge 5W-40 for cars in Australia and New Zealand, about NZD$100 for 5 litres when on special at SuperCheap Auto.
www.castrol.com
I use the Castrol EDGE 5W-40 Power 1 racing oil in my GSXR750, excellent product.
So the actual i30N user manual I found online recommends Shell Helix 0W-30, it is printed as clear as day on page 7-21 and 8-6 with their full on logo, but hey Shell probably paid Hyundai to put that there. Safe to assume that the Hyundai dealer supplies Shell in their plain grey containers if you want what they call "genuine oil".
To be honest an upgrade would be Castrol Edge 5W-40 for cars in Australia and New Zealand, about NZD$100 for 5 litres when on special at SuperCheap Auto.
CASTROL EDGE | CASTROL NEW ZEALAND
Castrol® EDGE® is a full synthetic motor oil that is engineered for drivers who want only the best from their engines. Castrol EDGE with Fluid Titanium, is the natural choice for drivers who demand maximum performance and protection from their cars. Unlock exhilarating performance with every drive.
I use the Castrol EDGE 5W-40 Power 1 racing oil in my GSXR750, excellent product.
You can call it waffling but it’s just more of your subjective opinion.
I own a 2019 VN, which was one of the first in the US. It has the same 2.0T Theta II engine as the i30N, which you don’t own. I use either Amsoil or Cerma motor oils. However, you‘ve never asked until the post above.
You’re GSXR750 is irrelevant to an i30N or VN engine discussion. It’s completely off-topic.
What you can’t respond to is; any amount of truthful questions to your arbitrary comments and your persistence to avoid them.
I don't care what you can buy in NZ. Doesn’t effect me, one way or the other. Nor does posting their website. It’s just more of the same dissonance. You’re simply attempting to justify your individual choice without comparisons by opinion, from either comparable or higher quality oil manufactures, which is fruitless.
I’ll leave you to the fantasies.
I own a 2019 VN, which was one of the first in the US. It has the same 2.0T Theta II engine as the i30N, which you don’t own. I use either Amsoil or Cerma motor oils. However, you‘ve never asked until the post above.
You’re GSXR750 is irrelevant to an i30N or VN engine discussion. It’s completely off-topic.
What you can’t respond to is; any amount of truthful questions to your arbitrary comments and your persistence to avoid them.
I don't care what you can buy in NZ. Doesn’t effect me, one way or the other. Nor does posting their website. It’s just more of the same dissonance. You’re simply attempting to justify your individual choice without comparisons by opinion, from either comparable or higher quality oil manufactures, which is fruitless.
I’ll leave you to the fantasies.
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Those brands are pretty non existent out here. You will not find them in major retailers like Repco or Supercheap and the cost is a joke from the distributor. Clearly we have better alternatives over here from Mobil and Castrol.
As the temps in Australia are even higher than here, the Castrol EDGE 5W-40 would be the way to go and that's what I will be running as well. By the way my cars never see a workshop for their entire lives, I do all the work myself. My advice, run a decent oil, change it every 10,000km for just normal driving on the road and you never have to do any major engine work for the life of the car.
If you wanted to stick with the "Hyundai recommended oil" Shell, there is the Helix Ultra 5W-40 here as well.
As the temps in Australia are even higher than here, the Castrol EDGE 5W-40 would be the way to go and that's what I will be running as well. By the way my cars never see a workshop for their entire lives, I do all the work myself. My advice, run a decent oil, change it every 10,000km for just normal driving on the road and you never have to do any major engine work for the life of the car.
If you wanted to stick with the "Hyundai recommended oil" Shell, there is the Helix Ultra 5W-40 here as well.
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I just booked my new i30N sedan in for it's first[1500km] service and asked them to change the engine oil. I was told the factory uses 'special' running in oil that must stay in until the 10,000km service.
It sounds like bullshit to me but the service dept does warranty claims so I need to find out from somewhere else. Any info welcome.
It sounds like bullshit to me but the service dept does warranty claims so I need to find out from somewhere else. Any info welcome.
Its potentially True. New engine builds Do use "running in Oil" initially, whether i30N's need it im not sure. I am rather confident that Hyundai run their engines in before releasing the vehicles to the public, but brand new custom builds would use RI oil for sure.
Shell Helix Ultra in 0W-30W spec is what I use. Change out filter and oil every 5k.
It seems that Hyundai do not use running in oil and it's an idiosyncrasy of the service manager. Other dealerships and Customer Care confirmed that.
They might run them prior to fitting to the car but it would take many hours to run one in, with a dedicated program and I doubt that happens at this price point.
Hi folks,
Before I add any value to the conversation, I'd just like to say that I'm getting a new I20n, WooHoo!
On topic, as an old motorcycle rider, I'll be changing my oil and filter after I do the first 1000k.
There's a couple of reasons I do this, the first is back when I was a lad, new bikes weren't bench run, so to clean out the swarf and other nasties, it was advisable to pick up the bike, ride it home and replace the oil and filter. Ride a few hundred K and do it again.
New vehicles don't have that sort of issue, but my old age OCD demands that I know that xactly what oils in the sump, and that I never mix oils. There's also the fact that one of my joys is working on my car, and with so few options (points, needles, carbies, what are they?) so I'll take the little wins where I can, changing fluids is one of those wins.
Before I add any value to the conversation, I'd just like to say that I'm getting a new I20n, WooHoo!
On topic, as an old motorcycle rider, I'll be changing my oil and filter after I do the first 1000k.
There's a couple of reasons I do this, the first is back when I was a lad, new bikes weren't bench run, so to clean out the swarf and other nasties, it was advisable to pick up the bike, ride it home and replace the oil and filter. Ride a few hundred K and do it again.
New vehicles don't have that sort of issue, but my old age OCD demands that I know that xactly what oils in the sump, and that I never mix oils. There's also the fact that one of my joys is working on my car, and with so few options (points, needles, carbies, what are they?) so I'll take the little wins where I can, changing fluids is one of those wins.