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thunder said:
The hyundai policy is pretty stupid, in the accessories and optionals aspect, every country has one different.

I have a spanish I30 "style lux" comes with absolutely everything: leather, electric memory seats, ventilated and heated, sunroof, full led, smart cruise, blind spot detector, why can not you put this in other models? In Korea the N-Line brings all this for example. In my car I miss a look more sporty

Why N can not bring blind spot detector or smart cruise? Or other useful details that are easy to use the car better.

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The Hyundai policy is not pretty stupid.... it is smart as. Their policy is economics based, every single feature that is added to a car adds cost to the final price you pay for a car.

You have a choice, an i30 N-Line with luxury (IMO mostly unnecessary) features like smart cruise, blind spot detection, hill start hold, lane departure warning, and even an automatic transmission,and sunroof.

Or you can have an i30N with big engine, big wheels, big brakes, trick suspension, electronic LSD, loud exhaust for roughly the same price. No auto (as yet), no sunroof (unless you pay for it), and only a one or two of the "safety features" the average millennial driver thinks are necessary features, and most serious (meaning old) drivers consider completely unnecessary.

Yes, you could bring out an i30N with every single feature possible, add an extra 25KWs, make it AWD, and you know what? It wouldn't sell.... It would be so close to Type R in money, and one of the main reasons the i30N has sold so well is the price. It performs well granted, but it is a budget performer, it arrived here (with a luxury pack)for $15K less than the Type R, and for me it was a no-brainer. If it had been close to the same price, I suspect I would be reading the Type R forum right now.

I don't need, want or use any of the "safety features", I am very old school. I drive my car, and I am in control of my car, not relying on the car to do part of the thinking for me. Anything that reduces the driver's need to be 100% attentive is IMO a bad thing. It should be 100% autonomous, or nothing. Ask the 300+ people who died in 737-Max crashes about manufacturers who introduce a device that takes control of your transport device, and doesn't allow the driver (or pilot) to retake control. Imagine if your lane departure warning detected the road turning sharp left (when it was actually going straight ahead), and steered your car left into oncoming traffic, and wouldn't allow you to re-correct? It's not supposed to happen, but it could, just like those planes were not supposed to dive into the ground. But they did.

Keep the price down, give proper driving lessons to new drivers, and make everyone safer.

So Hyundai are right to work out what drivers what from a car, and put as much as possible in that model to appeal to as many people as possible, without going over a pre-determined price point. Well done Hyundai. I am very happy with the car without all that millennial crap.
 
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Corsa59 said:
The Hyundai policy is not pretty stupid.... it is smart as. Their policy is economics based, every single feature that is added to a car adds cost to the final price you pay for a car.

You have a choice, an i30 N-Line with luxury (IMO mostly unnecessary) features like smart cruise, blind spot detection, hill start hold, lane departure warning, and even an automatic transmission,and sunroof.

Or you can have an i30N with big engine, big wheels, big brakes, trick suspension, electronic LSD, loud exhaust for roughly the same price. No auto (as yet), no sunroof (unless you pay for it), and only a one or two of the "safety features" the average millennial driver thinks are necessary features, and most serious (meaning old) drivers consider completely unnecessary.

Yes, you could bring out an i30N with every single feature possible, add an extra 25KWs, make it AWD, and you know what? It wouldn't sell.... It would be so close to Type R in money, and one of the main reasons the i30N has sold so well is the price. It performs well granted, but it is a budget performer, it arrived here (with a luxury pack)for $15K less than the Type R, and for me it was a no-brainer. If it had been close to the same price, I suspect I would be reading the Type R forum right now.

I don't need, want or use any of the "safety features", I am very old school. I drive my car, and I am in control of my car, not relying on the car to do part of the thinking for me. Anything that reduces the driver's need to be 100% attentive is IMO a bad thing. It should be 100% autonomous, or nothing. Ask the 300+ people who died in 737-Max crashes about manufacturers who introduce a device that takes control of your transport device, and doesn't allow the driver (or pilot) to retake control. Imagine if your lane departure warning detected the road turning sharp left (when it was actually going straight ahead), and steered your car left into oncoming traffic, and wouldn't allow you to re-correct? It's not supposed to happen, but it could, just like those planes were not supposed to dive into the ground. But they did.

Keep the price down, give proper driving lessons to new drivers, and make everyone safer.

So Hyundai are right to work out what drivers what from a car, and put as much as possible in that model to appeal to as many people as possible, without going over a pre-determined price point. Well done Hyundai. I am very happy with the car without all that millennial crap.
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That was very well said and I (as quite a young driver) have to agree 100%. If I want a car that does everything for me I'd rather take the train. I'm very well able to do all those "safety features" myself like checking my blind spot and staying in my own lane. No need to pay more money for stupid stuff like that in a car like this.
 
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Stash-N said:
Come on keep it real! It can get down to below 10 degrees C sometimes here in Australia. We are used to 30-40 degrees in summer so sub 10 degrees is cold for us so we need the heated seats. I used mine only last week. I know I am soft. :rolleyes:
To be serious I do see your point. No heated seats for the UK seems silly.
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We do have heated seats here ???
 
GazmaN said:
Hell, below zero in Canberra! (I blame that on the cold hearts of our federal politicians). Anything sub 20 up here feels icy, but not standard in UK?! Outrageous...
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Not just not standard... wasn't even available at launch! :eek:
 
Corsa59 said:
The Hyundai policy is not pretty stupid.... it is smart as. Their policy is economics based, every single feature that is added to a car adds cost to the final price you pay for a car.

You have a choice, an i30 N-Line with luxury (IMO mostly unnecessary) features like smart cruise, blind spot detection, hill start hold, lane departure warning, and even an automatic transmission,and sunroof.

Or you can have an i30N with big engine, big wheels, big brakes, trick suspension, electronic LSD, loud exhaust for roughly the same price. No auto (as yet), no sunroof (unless you pay for it), and only a one or two of the "safety features" the average millennial driver thinks are necessary features, and most serious (meaning old) drivers consider completely unnecessary.

Yes, you could bring out an i30N with every single feature possible, add an extra 25KWs, make it AWD, and you know what? It wouldn't sell.... It would be so close to Type R in money, and one of the main reasons the i30N has sold so well is the price. It performs well granted, but it is a budget performer, it arrived here (with a luxury pack)for $15K less than the Type R, and for me it was a no-brainer. If it had been close to the same price, I suspect I would be reading the Type R forum right now.

I don't need, want or use any of the "safety features", I am very old school. I drive my car, and I am in control of my car, not relying on the car to do part of the thinking for me. Anything that reduces the driver's need to be 100% attentive is IMO a bad thing. It should be 100% autonomous, or nothing. Ask the 300+ people who died in 737-Max crashes about manufacturers who introduce a device that takes control of your transport device, and doesn't allow the driver (or pilot) to retake control. Imagine if your lane departure warning detected the road turning sharp left (when it was actually going straight ahead), and steered your car left into oncoming traffic, and wouldn't allow you to re-correct? It's not supposed to happen, but it could, just like those planes were not supposed to dive into the ground. But they did.

Keep the price down, give proper driving lessons to new drivers, and make everyone safer.

So Hyundai are right to work out what drivers what from a car, and put as much as possible in that model to appeal to as many people as possible, without going over a pre-determined price point. Well done Hyundai. I am very happy with the car without all that millennial crap.
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Well said sir
 
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Rotorhead500 said:
We didn't at launch, not even an option!
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They were introduced within a couple of months of release. My car is a February 2018 build and it had them. But that first run of cars built in December 2017 didn’t even have the option as you say. Strange.

I think some pressure by potential customers may have influenced Hyundai UK’s decision actually....
 
Crocoman said:
They were introduced within a couple of months of release. My car is a February 2018 build and it had them. But that first run of cars built in December 2017 didn’t even have the option as you say. Strange.

I think some pressure by potential customers may have influenced Hyundai UK’s decision actually....
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Hmm, mine is October 2017 and has them...was it perhaps a supply thing or exclusively for the launch cars?
 
So back to my last question.

Is there anyone with the non-electric seats or from what I understand a car that it's not from Germany, who has the reverse - down mirror gimmick?

I forgot to ask about this when I was to the dealer and I want to know if this can be activated by them or if I need a module on my car that can do that.

Thanks.
 
iAmRuSu said:
So back to my last question.

Is there anyone with the non-electric seats or from what I understand a car that it's not from Germany, who has the reverse - down mirror gimmick?

I forgot to ask about this when I was to the dealer and I want to know if this can be activated by them or if I need a module on my car that can do that.

Thanks.
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Here in Oz it is part of the Luxury Pack (which I don't have) along with electric seats, front park assist, etc. I believe you would need a separate module mate.
 
GazmaN said:
Here in Oz it is part of the Luxury Pack (which I don't have) along with electric seats, front park assist, etc. I believe you would need a separate module mate.
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In Belgium you get it all, apart from the panoramic roof, that's an option.
 
It's getting that way in Germany too.

Almost every car I looked at had Comfort, Navi, Panorama, and Upgraded sound. I have everything in mine.
 
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I just bought a polar white fastback N, but forgot to include floor mats! Now they are telling me it cost $150 for the N branded mats. Does anyone here know where to get decent mats, and I am considering window tinting. Does anyone have a white hatch or fastback with tinting that can recommend what suits?
 
Ouch, next time you buy a car tell them you want mats and a full tank of gas. If they say no then buy from somewhere else. Decent mats can be bought from Ebay, Amazon, Hyundai Accessories website, etc.

Check the laws for where you live on tinting...Germany is 35% max and only allowable on the 3 rear windows.
 
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Burke said:
I just bought a polar white fastback N, but forgot to include floor mats! Now they are telling me it cost $150 for the N branded mats. Does anyone here know where to get decent mats, and I am considering window tinting. Does anyone have a white hatch or fastback with tinting that can recommend what suits?
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Tint a Car did a brilliant job on my PB at a good price and with a lifetime guarantee. Like @JAYtheVET mentions there are laws on this here too - just ask for "darkest legal tint". If you want to run the gauntlet and go with 'ambulance' tint they do offer this too but I would not recommend it.

I too managed to get the genuine N mats thrown in as part of presale negotiaions, sorry mate.
 
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