Yep, once you've driven one it's hard to get it out of your head. Whether you love it or hate it, you can't say its not special.if I was to call a car ‘groundbreaking’ it would have to be the GR Yaris..
Yep, once you've driven one it's hard to get it out of your head. Whether you love it or hate it, you can't say its not special.if I was to call a car ‘groundbreaking’ it would have to be the GR Yaris..
Yeh it’s a crazy car, unfortunately I just hate its looks, I’d probably rate it last in any hot hatch segment for looks alone, I’m holding out for Hyundai or Ford to have a crack at Toyota with an AWD i20 or Fiesta RS, but I have a feeling I could be waiting a while? lolYep, once you've driven one it's hard to get it out of your head. Whether you love it or hate it, you can't say its not special.
Sorry I’d have to disagree with that, what’s actually groundbreaking about the i20N? even with the engine, all they did was pull one from another car and tune it, Ford actually developed a brand new engine for the Fiesta ST, also the ST was coming out around 2018 as well, so it wouldn’t have been any easier back then, but too think the i20N would of been ‘class leader’ just because it was a new hot hatch from Hyundai is a bit of a stretch, if I was to call a car ‘groundbreaking’ it would have to be the GR Yaris..
Yeh fair enough mate, you might be right, maybe Hyundai were a bit more lazy with the i20N? They probably haven’t put the same effort in as with the i30N, I could be wrong? in saying that tho I reckon the 20 will be more fun to drive than the 30, mainly due to its weight, dropping over 300kgs will make a huge difference, and even though it has 4bhp more, the Ford has more torque, and believe me you really feel it, anyway you can go on all day with these comparisons, whatever floats yr boatSorry, you misinterpreted what I meant to say. I mean if the I20N was developed and released as Hyundai’s first N car then I believe it would have had the same or even more of an impact as the I30N.
I don’t think it has been afforded the same energy as the I30N, simply because Hyundai (naturally you might say) have already put themselves on the map with the I30N and have perhaps gotten a little lazy.
So, to clarify, IF the I20N was Hyundai’s first N car then maybe it would have had a groundbreaking 3 cylinder engine making 197bhp instead of a 4 pot making 201bhp.
It’s interesting how a discussion on cars can get peoples defences up though.
Ive commented before how everybody really embraced Hyundai and what they were trying to do a couple of years ago.......and then you see motoring journalists and consumers slowly reverting back to type.
It’s certainly a hard but to crack, this hot hatch market.
Sorry, you misinterpreted what I meant to say. I mean if the I20N was developed and released as Hyundai’s first N car then I believe it would have had the same or even more of an impact as the I30N.
I don’t think it has been afforded the same energy as the I30N, simply because Hyundai (naturally you might say) have already put themselves on the map with the I30N and have perhaps gotten a little lazy.
So, to clarify, IF the I20N was Hyundai’s first N car then maybe it would have had a groundbreaking 3 cylinder engine making 197bhp instead of a 4 pot making 201bhp.
It’s interesting how a discussion on cars can get peoples defences up though.
Ive commented before how everybody really embraced Hyundai and what they were trying to do a couple of years ago.......and then you see motoring journalists and consumers slowly reverting back to type.
It’s certainly a hard nut to crack, this hot hatch market.
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Fucking hell, thats it im convinced, apart from some things i wana change to its astetics, dynamicaly is what i need.
delayed till later in the year it seems now
For those that have experience with hyundai products, how is the QA for the latest overal vehicles from them? i mean general quality.
Mainly lurking here, seems to be a mixed bag but mainly positive and improving.
Personally: We own 2 Hyundais, one MY19 I30N, one MY2015 I30 Wagon, no complaints this far.
Heated seat drivers side in the Wagon broke, was replaced without hassle on warranty.
Had some rust on the fixtation of the backseat on my I30N. Repair on warranty, no hassle. Everything great so far. My complaints about this things were handled between my dealer (sells a lot of brands, but mainly Hyundai, so technically no Hyundai dealer, warranty problems have to be "outsourced") and Hyundai.
The shifting sometimes is still a bit notchy on the N, this is not being recognized by Hyundai, there have been some threads here, also DIY solutions to that problem are here in the forum. It's only every like 50 shitfs. Annoying. This seems to be a problem for some I30N.
Their reputation improved quite a bit in the last years, a good sign.
I've not read about any "lemons" here, maybe @m0LN4rius would disagree, since he seems quite a bit let down by the quality of his N.
5y warranty is a nice plus if you own your vehicle IMO.
If one prefers leasing the 5y are most likely irrelevant? to you.
A lot to consider, but personally I do not see any red flags yet.
I can only hope Hyundai is as good as my last 2 cars were.
A Golf 4 1,9 Tdi with over 400000km on the clock, the ~200000km I did on it had one alternator replacement (bad bearing, thought the squeaking was a belt, shredded the whole shaft of the altenator, this one is on me), one wheel bearing and the exhaust.
Also sub 5,5l/100km most of the time with great torque for the 90hp it had.
Whole VAG has become a giant red flag to me, mainly because of coworkers having gearboxes exploding and engines going bad. I think they have their problems under control now. Their early DCTs were extremely shitty.
Also one Opel Astra H 1.8, almost 200000km and this car was a true bro. In 14y one exhaust replacement and one faulty abs-sensor wich caused the whole weel bearing to be replaced.
Opel has it's own problems, an aquaintance of me had an Insignia that spent more time in the shop than on the street. Maybe a lemon.