Today, I saw a new Focus ST line comming by. We (girlfriend also in the car) had to look 2 times to be sure it wasn't an I30n... Looks very similar from a small distance.
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New Focus ST
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https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-ford-focus-st-packs-276bhp
i30N is considered as a direct rival
i30N is considered as a direct rival
Pretty cool to see Ford emulating for a change. The profile looks much more reminiscent of a Mazdaspeed 3 to my eye. Looks good.
Now if Biermann and crew were smart, they’d stop messing around and offer warranty-friendly remapping options like Ford has done for years.
Now if Biermann and crew were smart, they’d stop messing around and offer warranty-friendly remapping options like Ford has done for years.
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Yes, I almost waved at one the other day 
Sadly this type of brand convergence is the result of aerodynamics and ergonomics being designed and optimised by computer.
Sadly this type of brand convergence is the result of aerodynamics and ergonomics being designed and optimised by computer.
How does the tax thing work man, is it based on cubic capacity over there?
They offered a performance model already for the Focus ST MK3. It did include 19" wheels and bigger front brakes
In germany its 2 € (for petrol engines, diesel is more expensive) for every 100cc + a fee based on the co2 emissions per year. So here 300cc more doesnt hurt anyone, instead i'd very much like to have those 420 Nm
Regarding price, i'd bet the starting price will be very close to 32500€ (in germany) for the ST2 model.
It might be around that price but I guess that if you want to match the i30 N standard equipment its going to be a lot more than that.
Yes, a complex formula based on euronorm, capacity, CO/km, age of the car
Some info about the new eLSD
https://www2.borgwarner.com/en/powerdrive/products/Literature/BW TT FXD NA.pdf
https://www2.borgwarner.com/en/powerdrive/products/Literature/BW TT FXD NA.pdf
The problem is Ford is very popular and soon you will see one on every street. Unlike the N, which since November,i have not seen one in the flesh ( not including the one outside the car dealer).
Didn't realize there was another Focus ST thread so this is a repost from the other one...
This is a sad subject for me since I was 50/50 between an N and an ST.
I sat in a showroom only ST today at a showroom unveiling in Frankfurt and was only semi impressed. Interior build quality is marginally better than an N. The Recaro seats are nice though and the screen is noticeably better. Exterior is truly on point, it is a sharp car!
However, I have a friend in the states with an '18 RS that has nothing but motor issues. Also 3 friends here in Germany with new model year Focuses have also had sever motor issues (yes, I know the new ST has a revamped 2.3 which is different than the range of lower models). I have read a lot of articles about the focus being a great drive but also having quality control issues with engine components.
After seeing the new ST I was pretty disappointed about paying 43,000 Euros (fully loaded) when I can get an N for 30-32,000 Euros and have (generally speaking) the same car.
I have owned 7 Ford's since my 1990 Ranger including an ST and RS and never had a problem. Although I am going to wait for a test drive version before I make my final decision and purchase I would have to say Ford dropped the ball on the ST. I'll keep those interested posted after my test drive and let you know how it felt.
At this point I'm 75/25 for an N.
This is a sad subject for me since I was 50/50 between an N and an ST.
I sat in a showroom only ST today at a showroom unveiling in Frankfurt and was only semi impressed. Interior build quality is marginally better than an N. The Recaro seats are nice though and the screen is noticeably better. Exterior is truly on point, it is a sharp car!
However, I have a friend in the states with an '18 RS that has nothing but motor issues. Also 3 friends here in Germany with new model year Focuses have also had sever motor issues (yes, I know the new ST has a revamped 2.3 which is different than the range of lower models). I have read a lot of articles about the focus being a great drive but also having quality control issues with engine components.
After seeing the new ST I was pretty disappointed about paying 43,000 Euros (fully loaded) when I can get an N for 30-32,000 Euros and have (generally speaking) the same car.
I have owned 7 Ford's since my 1990 Ranger including an ST and RS and never had a problem. Although I am going to wait for a test drive version before I make my final decision and purchase I would have to say Ford dropped the ball on the ST. I'll keep those interested posted after my test drive and let you know how it felt.
At this point I'm 75/25 for an N.
Regarding the RS’ engine issues: from release until june 2018, Ford mounted the wrong head casket (from the mustang) which led to loose of compression and cooling water going into the cylinders. But by now that issue is solved and since the new ST is basically running the mustang engine and not the RS one, there shouldn’t be a problem.