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Lifetime engine warranty

Stash-N

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#4
Pretty good news if you live in the USA. I don't have any illusions Hyundai will extend this engine warranty to the smaller markets such as Australia however.
We should be used to being given the rough end of the pineapple but it still disappointing. Australian colloquialism. Given a rough deal. :rolleyes::confused:
 
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Pretty good news if you live in the USA. I don't have any illusions Hyundai will extend this engine warranty to the smaller markets such as Australia however.

We should be used to being given the rough end of the pineapple but it still disappointing. Australian colloquialism. Given a rough deal. :rolleyes::confused:
I don't know but I wouldn't come to any negative conclusions, just yet. These engines were not isolated to the US. It was the entire Theta II engine production. Keep in mind, this is a bit of grandfathering from 2018 lawsuit, so there is still more inclusion to come.

Part of the reason for this is, a Hyundai engineer testified before the NHTSA in late 2017 and provided detailed testimony with regards to the milling issues during production of the engine blocks, which left metal shaving on key areas of the crankshaft journals and other locations. The shaving broke off causing damage to main bearing, oil pumps and other engine parts.

It's good to see Hyundai stepping up and offering the warranted engine. However, according to the testimony of the engineer to the NHTSA, the majority or all the issues were corrected before the 2018/19 Theta II engines were produced.
 
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I don't know but I wouldn't come to any negative conclusions. These engines were not isolated to the US. It was the entire Theta II engine production. Keep in mind, this is a bit of grandfathering from 2018 lawsuit, so there is still more inclusion to come.

Part of the reason for this is, a Hyundai engineer testified before the NHTSA in 2018 and provided detailed testimony with regards to the milling issues, during production of the engine blocks which left metal shaving on key areas of the crankshaft journals and other locations. The shaving broke off causing damage to main bearing, oil pumps and other engine parts.

It's good to see Hyundai stepping up and offering the warranted engine. However, according to the testimony of the engineer to the NHTSA, the majority or all the issues were corrected before the 2018/19 Theta II engines were produced.
Yet another reason why it's always a good idea to do the first oil change at 2-3k miles when buying a new car.
 
#10
This is from a post on hyundai-forums seven months ago when asked about the Theta II engine.

"Buy new. Maintain it. If you're lucky, you'll get the new $7000 engine before the 10/100k warranty expires. If you don't plan on keeping the car past the 60 month car payment, then do the least required maintenance and trade it in.

The 2.0TGDI/2.4GDI has been a nightmare for Hyundai.... numerous engines seized, many turn into oil burners very young in their life, some sludge up even with acceptable maintenance, others run perfectly and then suddenly die, several class action lawsuits, extended warranty(Kia better than Hyundai), .... The YF/LF Sonata forums and earlier SantaFe forums have plenty of info on the engine, as do the similar Kia forums.

I am keeping my theta 2.4GDI until the warranty expires. Before then, the engine will be replaced. Whoever gets it dirt cheap used will have a new or rebuilt engine. My neighbors 2.0T failed at ~60k miles and was maintained pretty well with 4k-5k mile oil changes, usually every 6 months, using name brand synthetic oil and OE filters.

Theta-II.... brought to you by the same engineers that suckered you into an Excel, and nothing has changed. Hyundai spent the last 25 years rebuilding their reputation, producing excellent cars and SUVs, only to create a lemonade making engine for the 2011 Sonata, and then draft it into many Hyundai/Kia products.

Corporate greed alive and well in SouthKorea and they still won't fess up to the real problem with the engine.

Don't worry, the knock sensor can detect engine failure noise prior to the engine seizing. So, when it goes into limp mode, you should still be able to make it home or to the dealer, at a slow relaxed speed. "

Are the engines for i30 N build at the same plant in Czech Republic where the whole car is assembled?
I wonder how the price will be on 5+ year cars when the warrenty is gone...
 
#11
Hyundai's don't hold their resale value but this is the beauty of owning one. They will always be in demand by those who can't afford something more expensive.;) It simply behoves the first owner to take care of the car.:)
 
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When I bought this car, I knew what I was getting into. But that wont stop me from performing preventive maintenance as much as possible. Even though I use synthetic oil. I would only change it every 3K miles, no excuses. If this engine wasnt GDI then I wouldve pushed the interval by a few more miles.
 
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When I bought this car, I knew what I was getting into. But that wont stop me from performing preventive maintenance as much as possible. Even though I use synthetic oil. I would only change it every 3K miles, no excuses. If this engine wasnt GDI then I wouldve pushed the interval by a few more miles.
Unless you track your car every day, every 3k miles is quite excessive. 5-6k is more like it imo.
 
#16
Wow!!! It sad to see such over reactions!
I came from a much more expensive and powerful car. Talk about fear mongering! Seems even the budget/value vehicle propositions aren't excluded from massive exaggerations. At least that forum had a mediocre position to argue. Albeit. The failure rate still fell at less than one percent. How many theta II engines have been manufactured? How many have failed? How many on this forum have had failure? Let me guess? No one knows! SmH

Instead, like before, Ill keep enjoying and tracking my car. If the engine goes, ill get a new one
Win win if you ask me.
 
#17
4.69 million units so far.
4.17 million vehicles in the U.S


Total number of Theta II engines produced, is not available that I can find.

I'm sorry, I don't see any fear mongering here.:confused: It also depends upon which Theta II unit you're referring to specifically. There are several variations used in Hyundai's and Kia's.

This will help shed a bit more light on this subject as well as associate problems;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Theta_engine
https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2019/02/hyundai-raided-in-south-korea-over-theta-ii-engine-recall/
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-168000-vehicles-for-fire-risks-idUSKCN1PA2HT
https://www.autoblog.com/2019/10/12/hyundai-kia-760-million-settlement-engine-fires-failures/
https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Hyundai.pdf
https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2018/hyundai-kia-theta-ii-engine-fires-investigation.shtml
https://www.consumerreports.org/car-safety/nhtsa-opens-new-probes-into-hyundai-kia-vehicle-fires/


Keep in mind, the NHTSA has filed on-going investigations as recent as of April, 2019
 
#18
Fear mongering was referring to the forum of my old car.
The engines referred in the lifetime warranty, "A total of 4.17 million Hyundai and Kia models equipped with Theta II gasoline direct injection (GDI) engines, which were sold in naturally aspirated 2.0-liter and 2.4-liter displacements, and had a turbocharged derivative, will be affected by the U.S. settlement.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.au...760-million-settlement-engine-fires-failures/
4.69 million units so far.
4.17 million vehicles in the U.S


Total number of Theta II engines produced, is not available that I can find.

I'm sorry, I don't see any fear mongering here.:confused: It also depends upon which Theta II unit you're referring to specifically. There are several variations used in Hyundai's and Kia's.

This will help shed a bit more light on this subject as well as associate problems;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Theta_engine
https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2019/02/hyundai-raided-in-south-korea-over-theta-ii-engine-recall/
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-168000-vehicles-for-fire-risks-idUSKCN1PA2HT
https://www.autoblog.com/2019/10/12/hyundai-kia-760-million-settlement-engine-fires-failures/
https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Hyundai.pdf
https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2018/hyundai-kia-theta-ii-engine-fires-investigation.shtml
https://www.consumerreports.org/car-safety/nhtsa-opens-new-probes-into-hyundai-kia-vehicle-fires/


Keep in mind, the NHTSA has filed on-going investigations as recent as of April, 2019
 
#19
I know, this^ is just one of the direct links I posted above amongst the quoted web links. There are literally dozens more.
Fear mongering was referring to the forum of my old car.
Sorry, it wasn't very clear.
Wow!!! It sad to see such over reactions!
I don't read any overreactions here either. Just a direct discussion.:)
The failure rate still fell at less than one percent.
I suppose your speaking about the GT350 once again?

The total number Theta II engines produced during the periods specified, aren't available from either Hyundai or Kia. However, the total production of the Theta II engine was affected overall.

Considering the USA, is the largest consumer of Hyundai and Kia vehicles, 4.17 million is a pretty decisive number. Unless someone is able to provide the accurate numbers of Theta II engines produced IAW Hyundai and Kia, we cannot even begin to surmise an accurate percentage of those affected.

I can tell you, this is one of the largest recalls in history by the NHTSA and one of the largest sums ever paid by an auto manufacturer to make owners whole. Of course we aren't including, the engines Hyundai is now going to replace free of charge, during this life cycle.

This could become the largest recall in automotive history, both by vehicle and monetarily, once everything is said and done.

To go a bit further, some of the issues extend to the 1.6 Gamma II, and will also eventually be inclusive.;)

However, this is just icing on the cake for me. So we can actually have our cake and eat it too this time.:p It blows, get another one even if it's out of warranty. If I sell it before it does, the next owner will get one.
 
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